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Topic started on 21-11-2005 @ 08:27 AM by Amethyst
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Is he even a Christian?
 Pat Robertson, the so-called voice of Christian America, has again been caught 'El Diablo red handed' flashing occult and satanic hand
signals during his show.
During Thursday morning's 700 Club program Robertson could clearly be seen displaying the El Diablo hand gesture towards the end of the broadcast.

There you have it, another fake Christian trying to lead real Christians astray. True Bible-believing Christians are against any NWO or one-world
religion.
Robertson is just another Bushbot NWO shill.
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reply posted on 21-11-2005 @ 08:47 AM by RANT
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His positions and history are actually more telling than errant
hand gestures.
He funneled arms money to the Contras for Reagan, was a failed faith healer for a short time, of course made all the outrageous terrorist statements
everyone knows about and has claimed on occassion he was temporarily "possessed" by a demon in a Seattle hotel room.
That's pretty bad. I've only done two of those things.
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reply posted on 21-11-2005 @ 08:59 AM by Amethyst
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If you read on in that article, Robertson doesn't mind China's forced-abortion policy, which is a huge human rights violation.
Bottom line, he's a hypocrite. I have a list of more hypocrites:
Billy Graham
Jerry Falwell
Paul and Jan Crouch
That's to name a few.
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reply posted on 21-11-2005 @ 09:03 AM by FlyersFan
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Originally posted by RANT
and has claimed on occassion he was temporarily
"possessed" by a demon in a Seattle hotel room. 
 Oh reeeeeeeeeeeeeally? hmmm Sounds interesting.
Anyone have a link with this info on it? I'd like to read about it.
BTW - it IS a symbol of the Texas Long Horns so I don't think it
means anything that G.W. and Laura did it when the Texas
bands went by on inauguration day. But it IS funny that so many
preachers have gotten their pictures taken doing it.
[edit on 11/21/2005 by FlyersFan]
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reply posted on 21-11-2005 @ 10:21 AM by Nygdan
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I don't like robertson at all, but this is meaningless
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He's not even doing the sign. They took a freeze frame from a video that is similar to the sign, he's obviously in the middle of talking and
gesturing.
Even the other preachers 'caught' doing it are stills from video sequences, they are just talking and moving about and they've picked the ones that
look like the sign.
Here they are saying he is giving a masonic "Sign of the Fellow Craft"
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But, of course, don't bother to show that this is actually any sort of sign. And as far as them being anti-christian, the very same degree that they
allude to above has
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and requires them to swear by god, the bible, the saints, the whole shebang. Hardly anti-christian and evil.
Perhaps it would be better to look at Jones as actually being the one doing anti-christian things.
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reply posted on 21-11-2005 @ 11:05 AM by RANT
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by RANT
and has claimed on occassion he was temporarily
"possessed" by a demon in a Seattle hotel room. 
 Oh reeeeeeeeeeeeeally? hmmm Sounds interesting.
Anyone have a link with this info on it? I'd like to read about it. 
Pat Robertson: A Question of Sanity
Excerpt from "Pat's Perspective -- Christians and Demonic Influence", Pat Robertson, 2001 www.patrobertson.com
 "I recall an incident from my own life when I was staying in a motel near Seattle, Washington. One morning, when I was in that stage between
sleep and waking, an awful depression seized me. I felt that everyone was against me, that people around me were failing, and that everything I was
doing was falling to pieces. Discouragement overwhelmed me like a dark cloud."
"As I struggled to wake up, I realized I was under demonic attack. I immediately took control over it and said, "Satan, in the name of Jesus, I cast
you forth." The minute I said that, my mind was free and my despair was gone. I realized later that the Seattle-Tacoma area led the nation in
suicides. The spirit that was coming upon me was a suicidal spirit, the sort of influence that would lead to such depression that a person would wish
to kill himself. I was in an area where many had been gripped by this kind of demon."
- Pat Robertson, 2001 
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reply posted on 21-11-2005 @ 11:26 AM by Amethyst
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Originally posted by Nygdan
But, of course, don't bother to show that this is actually any sort of sign. 
As Edgar Allan Poe said, the best place to hide things is out in the open.
Besides, I thought the Hook 'Em Horns was with just the thumb and pinky up. I remember when I was in first grade, my mother told me that sticking
your index and pinky fingers up meant something bad--she didn't elaborate though.
I doubt that we have Texas Longhorns fans all around the world....
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reply posted on 21-11-2005 @ 12:38 PM by yeahright
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Hook 'em horns. University of Texas Longhorns.
In the parlance of my times, also used to express when someone's full of BS. (Hence, the bull horns).
I've also heard it referred to as used when suggesting someone "go to hell". (Devil horns).
Co opted by the heavy metal crowd as a satanic sign. Ozzzzy!! Duuuude!!
And sometimes your hands just do that. You don't have to be possessed or anything. I promise.
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reply posted on 21-11-2005 @ 01:32 PM by lardo5150
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well, I always thought that the inded finger and pinky finger pointed up meant heavy metal. I do it all the time at Pantera concerts. I am a
catholic to. Means nothing to me.
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reply posted on 21-11-2005 @ 01:54 PM by Geneticus
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RIDICULOUS! If you talk on camera enough, and you gesticulate the way you are supposed to for good communications habits... if you do this long
enough, you will eventually be able to freeze a single frame where you appear to have your fingers raised just so. It's natural to stick that pinky
out when you point up... gesturing to God maybe... pointing up is obviously what he was doing... GET REAL PEOPLE!
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reply posted on 21-11-2005 @ 02:05 PM by UfoofU
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Does it really matter? He's going to hell anyways for doing god's work. Keeps praying to god to kill people and so far has had his prayers
answered. he prayed to god to kill the SC, he got one dead and another left before god could strike her down. I wouldn't jest at this guy for he
may pray to god to kill you now.
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reply posted on 21-11-2005 @ 02:14 PM by Souljah
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You think these Guys are Connected?
They meet at the Annual Satan Worshipping Meeting at the Bohemian Groove?
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And His Wife - 1st Lady of the United States:
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And his Daughter...
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Hmmmmm....
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reply posted on 21-11-2005 @ 02:19 PM by Nygdan
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yeah 'hmm' they must be devil worshippers because of some ridiculous hand signal and the rantings of the fanatical christian right.
but whats it matter if its lies, propaganda, and distortion, when its political expedient eh?
Originally posted by Amethyst
Besides, I thought the Hook 'Em Horns was with just the thumb and pinky up. 
He's not doing whatever they do for the long horns from wherever. He's talking. Look at the gesture of the hand. Its not a held position. He's
talking and gesticulating, not giving the devil sign to demonstrate his evil allegiance.
 I remember when I was in first grade, my mother told me that sticking your index and pinky fingers up meant something bad 
Its just the devil sign, or the goat head.
ROCK N FRICKIN ROOOOOOLLL MAN! WOOOOHHOOOOOO!
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reply posted on 22-11-2005 @ 06:28 AM by yanchek
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Let's see what this sign means.
Mano Cornuto
Mano Cornuto, Il Cornuto
Goat of Mendes
The Horns of Cernunnos
 In the modern Neo-Pagan movements, of which Wicca is the most notable, the worship of the Horned God has been revived. The adherents generally
follow the life-fertility-death cycle for Cernunnos, though his death is now usually set at Samhain, the Celtic New Year Festival usually taking place
on October 31.
A major difference between the historical and the Neopagan versions of Cernunnos is that the latter tends to figure phallic symbolism, merged in from
Pan and from the Eliphas Levi depiction of Baphomet. 
Homeland Stupidity, UTX
Looks like Bohemian Grove paganistic clean fun to me.
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reply posted on 22-11-2005 @ 06:43 AM by dgtempe
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He's just saying " If its good enough for Bush and family, its good enough for me"
Beware of false prophets.
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reply posted on 22-11-2005 @ 07:40 AM by FlyersFan
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 Oh Lord help us all. So he is now 'sensitive' to the spirit of the
area and that effects his moods? So if he were to visit the big island
of Hawaii would he wig out and go killing people because of the human
sacrifices that had been there years ago?
He also doesn't understand the clinical aspects of depression. Sure,
I believe that sometimes spirits can influence a person, but more often
than not depression and suicide is CLINICAL and can be tracked with
science and medicine.
Thanks for the post RANT. You peaked my interest when
you mentioned it.
[edited to correct quote coding -nygdan]
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reply posted on 29-11-2005 @ 03:56 AM by abovereproach
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Robertson was--AS USUAL!!!--displaying his really amazing ignorance. The kinds of emotions and hallucinations experienced by many sane, NONPOSSESSED
people in the state between sleeping and waking are called hypnopompic and hypnogagic hallucinations. They are perfectly normal, experienced during
this kind of "twilight" sleep, and if Robertson had the brain of a turnip he would have known that.
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