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Real conspiracy for a change

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posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 06:17 AM
Many threads here is theoretical conspiracy. Now I serve the Real Thing on a silver plate; they have even stolen a whole country. On with it;

This letter explains the difference between true jews and the zionists. This is important to know because the zionists claim they speak for the world jews. The zionists do NOT speak for the world jews and the zionists are even considered anti-jew by the true jews.

The zionists misuse Holocaust to gain power over the western world, and also UN. They claim it is a crime to wiew the Holocaust any other way than their own. But they lie about Holocaust.
Not only jews but also gipsy, polish, russian war prisoner and any numbers of other people were sent the same camps as the jews.
So it is a fact that Holocaust was not only a jewish tragedy they must share this past tragedy with any number of other peoples. But does this happen? No.

The Holocaust denial law made by the zionist Israel and others must be rejected because it flyes in the face of scientific method, wich is to ask questions, and it deny people the right to belive different than others. The Holocaust denial laws make people criminals just because they ask questions about the Holocaust, questions the zionists don't want anyone to answer.

UN made Israel to be a jewish country, but is in fact zionist state and not jewish. That is also why people of the western world must learn the difference between zionists and jews. UN must take Israel back and give it back to its arabic orginal owners, namely the local arabic population. The jews do not want UN to give them Israel and they never has. It is agains their belive to be given any land. The jews wait for their God to give them a land in person. UN cannot do this for God.
The jews consider the zionists as anti-jews and even evil. More on this in the documents included in this message.

This information must be told to the world and I hope you can assist in this. Zionists have lied to Europe and US for a decade and the western countries have unfortunly swallowed the lies whole and never before heard the truth, wich comes from the true jews.

Below is documents and web-links so anyone who wish to can examine the differences in more detail;

various letters about the zionist problem;

Quotes from many respected Rabbis;

Holocaust victims accuse; Documents and testimony on jewish war criminals;

The Hidden History of Zionism; , , , ,

What the rabbis said about Zionism;

It would be out of the question to publish all the utterances of Gedolei Yisroel [Torah authorities] during the last century, the period of the emergence of Zionism on the Jewish horizon, because all the Gedolei Yisroel sternly opposed the movement aimed at undermining the Jewish religion and the Jewish essence

[The Torah] forbids us to strive for the reunion or possession of the land by any but spiritual means

Rabbi S. R. Hirsch
Not via our desire did we leave the land of Israel, and not via our power will we come back to the land of Israel.

Rabbi S.D. Schneerson
[Zionists] want a state in order to make Jews into heretics.

Rabbi C. Soloveichik
The Zionists have attacked the center point of Judaism.

Rabbi V. Soloveichik

The root of Zionism is heresy and its branches can hardly be otherwise.


Under the 1935 Nuremberg Laws, only two flags were permitted in Nazi Germany. One was the swastika. The other was the blue and white banner of Zionism.

According to Lenni Brenner's online book Zionism in the Age of Dictators (Ch.7), the Zionist party was the only other political party in Nazi Germany that enjoyed a measure of freedom, and could publish a newspaper. The reason: Zionists and Nazis had a common interest, making German Jews go to Palestine. (

History is not always what you'd expect.

[edit on 21-11-2005 by Ghaele]

posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 08:42 AM
I have no doubt the Holocaust happened--and Zionists were in on it too.

Zionists are basically the Catholic church's "court Jews." See the Vatican Assassins site for more information. The Vatican has always hated the Jews--notice how people blame things on the Jews. That's part of the plan. Use them as a scapegoat.

posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 11:24 AM
weren't the constant Jewish uprisings against the Romans led by
and didn't the the conquered people of Judea & Palestine
think of these Zionists as zealots, insurrectionists, rebels, murderers...
and actually rebuked them, because the Romans exacted penalty &
pain on the populace for the Zionists' acts of terrorism?

i think every culture or people has its own version of "zion"-ists

(i got this cached, because its a long doc. from 'Dearborn Independent')

posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 05:39 PM
God is a Zionist

He said that he would bring Israel home from every nation and He is doing it.

Isa 60:8 Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows
Isa 60:9 Surely the isles shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring thy sons from far, their silver and their gold with them, unto the name of the LORD thy God, and to the Holy One of Israel, because he hath glorified thee.

He even said it would go from being a desert occupied by heathens to a bountiful place occupied by Israelis.

You want to change to God.

Gog - magog - which appears to be a nuclear war is next on the list
The jews are there to stay

posted on Nov, 21 2005 @ 09:50 PM

Originally posted by Ghaele
...UN must take Israel back and give it back to its arabic orginal owners, namely the local arabic population.

From a pragmatic perspective, this can't happen even if we all agreed it was the right thing to do. 50 years have passed. To take the land away from those who now own it would be to steal it from them in order to reconcile an act for which most of those harmed have already died.

Those who have occupied the land there for the past 50 years have transformed it into a modern state from what was previously of low value. Would you agree that it would be proper to destroy everything they've put together before handing this otherwise nearly worthless land back? That would be the fair thing to do if it were to be handed back.

posted on Nov, 22 2005 @ 03:26 AM
But they are not jews. They are anti-jew.

In short; zionists are for the jews as nazists and facists are for christian countries.

spam; Why not? Just move away the zionists. Zionists are obvious evil so they have to convert or be moved.

posted on Nov, 22 2005 @ 08:19 PM

Originally posted by Ghaele
spam; Why not? Just move away the zionists. Zionists are obvious evil so they have to convert or be moved.

First, you are assuming that everyone in Israel is a "zionist". I seriously doubt that is true. A good percentage of the population is Muslim, 25% of those who live in Israel don't even believe in god, and many moved there simply to be with others like themselves.

Additionally, I do not view zionists as evil, obvioulsy or otherwise. Modern Israel was created by Christians trying to force the hand of Bible prophecy, not Jews, and not zionists.

Even if what you say were true, that everyone there was evil, that is not sufficient reason to violate their property rights. There are few if any surviving claimants to the land they occupy, and most who live there were not involved in the formation.

The children of one group do not collectively owe anything to the children of some other group as the result of the transgressions of fathers against fathers. Once a generation passes, it's too late.

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