well its slowly getting pieced together....i guess after really looking at this footage, this is one of the best clips, other than Patty, i am really looking into this clip, there has been other good clips, like the Snow Walker vid, as anyone seen that one, I have a link somewhere, its a good clip and the Bigfoot there had some of the same features as this one, but looks a little fatter and seems a little too clumsy, but anyways im uploading now, so yea yea...i have it done so if ya want it... u2u me

[edit on 22-11-2005 by Evil_minds]

After watching the slower entire clip you provided Dulcimer it makes me wander if maybe the path the creature took is following a trail that makes it turn around like it did. Would love to be at the sighting location to take a look. Video never shows the terrain like it is.

I have finished my enlarged enhanced version. Its not the best, im debating uploading it.

Another thing I have done is batch processed enhanced and extracted every frame from the video and put them in an archive.

If anyone would want it, I would upload it.

About 4.5 megs, .zip or .rar your choice.

I could use raw frames, enhanced frames or whatever you want.

(off the topic) Harry, what part of the smokies? Since you say smokies it makes me think of Gatlinburg or Cades Cove in that region...Cades Cove was home to a few bigfoot sightings. Hey Dulcimer i would like to take a look, i have an enhanced version, but i'm used to making cartoons or skateboard movies, not really focused on unknown creatures. Has any of you guys ever had a kryptid expirence?

[edit on 22-11-2005 by Evil_minds]

Would love to see Dulcimer. Enhanced I think would be better for me. I want to see what you have done regardless how you feel about it. I have got to get better at my computer skills. Thanks Harry

P.S Evil I live about 10 miles north of Cades Cove from the way the crow flies. I was a Park Ranger there for about 6 years in the late seventies. I never had a sighting myself but yes others have seen them here.

[edit on 22-11-2005 by Harry55]

One thing I have been trying to see is if you can see its face.

The man who shot the video said it had dark eyes. But is it really looking at the camera ever? Its hard to tell.

I see it has fingers though.

Here is one of my larger color changed images.


Here is the same frame, original size and color changed.


I will look through more later. TV time.

Not that i doubt the authenticity of the video but am i the ony one to notice the ominous SILENCE in the video, normally in home shot videos the people recording it are so excited they say things"s..., look at it" , "christ its huge" or something similiar...theres a silence as if he isnt suprised at all, like maybe hes expecting our hairy friend to pass by, hes maybe a little too cool under fire,if you know what i mean, personally wouldnt be able to film it without one or two words of awe and disbelief escaping.

Dulcimer good work.
I am going to try and spend some time checking that out today.

As far as the question about Marks reaction being strange while filming concerning being quite. When you read his report he states he was trying to film Elk and was being very quite when he noticed the noise. If you turn your volume up while watching the original clip you can here him moving through the brush and at one point say something like geeez. So I do not think it was too strange since we do not know him and the type person he may be. There are some folks more brave than others when it comes to strange encounters.

Mr Earthmagic very good post. Thanks for your comments and I will be looking to see if I notice what you and your wife found. I agree there are too many indicators with this clip pointing to real for it to be hoax.

Please all take a look at these two comparison photos I found of the possible sighting location and see what you think. First from google the second from Mark Nelsons video.


Credit needs to be given to Traveller and Ocoee from Bigfoot forum for this find. This is Mt St Helena. They do seem to match.

Thank you Earthmagick's husband, good post.

Harry, the pics are similar but not exactly, it looks to me in the video that the hill on the left has a cliff face and is a seperate hill infront of the bigger hil behind, whereas the google one shows it as a a ridgeline of a single hill. The right hand ridge also looks slightly different, but it would be a good place to start looking.

I have found using the original clip in QTime you can use the arrow buttons on your keypad to scroll through the clip frame by frame or in slow motion by keeping it pressed (really useful).

Using this I did notice 'C' on the same path move towards 'A' and I think this is the 'C' I initially spotted but soon lost sight of and I started looking further into the shadows in vain searching for the 'C' I initially spotted (if you get what I mean).

Using this method just before we see 'B' emerge in the few frames before that you can see 'B' moving in the long grass in the direction of where "B' eventually emerges.

I am also certain (as I can be) as I said earlier, that there is no way 'A' could have gone all the way round to be in the point where we see 'B' moving in the frames before we see 'B' emerge. And 'A' is significantly further down the hill than 'B' is.

Oh and to everyone talking about focus quality, If you had just taken your camera out, and had to film this in the few seconds availabe whilst also moving your position to get a better view, do you think you could override the auto focus quickly and effectively whilst keeping your eye on the subject? I doubt it. His camera would have been searching for something to focus on throughout this clip, constantly changing its focus till it manages to find something to lock on to, that's why it's so poor.

I wish there was a clever camera out there which could ignore grass/branches in the immediate fore ground but I don't think it can be done.

[edit on 23/11/2005 by Wig]

Someone else in the thread mentioned that the cameraman seems to jump the gun when following the creature. Watching this, I also noticed something else. The creature looks like it's crouching behind the tall grass, and then stands up to walk by. Almost like it was waiting for a cue to get up and move. The cameraman ran to his spot, and started "following" before the guy in a suit got up. So he resets his camera centered *right* where the creature stands up. How would he have known the creature was crouching there in the first place?

Seems like a hoax. A good one, but a hoax.

Anybody else think this video looks like the old one of Sasquatch walking away as viewed through some brush?

Originally posted by curiousity
Anybody else think this video looks like the old one of Sasquatch walking away as viewed through some brush?

That's cuts either way. You could say that the cameraman used that film as a reference when making his hoax. You could also say that, assuming both are videos of Bigfeet, then you'd expect them to walk about the same way.

This doesnt look real at all.
Why can't anyone capture a good footage of bigfoot?

I have studied biology with the OU and it certainly isn't a man in a furry costume. It is a hominid and from the back resembles an upright primate. Too bad it didn't turn around.

When my brother and I were younger; we were holidaying in Missouri with my AFJROTC tutor and his wife. My brother and I were in the camper while the adults were in the cabin.

My brother and I heard something walk around the camper breathing heavy. We were too scared to look out the window. The area we were at, I later found out had been where other sightings of Bigfoot had been reported.

The terrain in the valley was very much like the terrain in the video.
Shame the video wasn't much longer and shame it didn't turn around. It appearred to be a juvenille, as it doesn't appear as broad as the one in the Patterson film.

I have a strange interest in the creature. As I have recalled two possible events from my childhood, where I may have glimpsed or had a brief encounter.

Either way, this video is genuine and I hope more are forthcoming to protect the creature and it's habitat.

It obviously meant the hikers no harm and just wanted to get away and be left alone.

i had the same views, and i rule out hoax, i have seen well established hoaxes and this one stands out, i have enhanced version of the clip but im still working on them, and i thought maybe ir was carrying an infant on its back, and honestly it moves...so wierd, idk bout u guys but i think its real.

G'day, I have been following this thread from the start and I thought I would add in my observations.
Using the same method Earthmagic's husband mentioned, I too have noticed SEVERAL more "bigfoot"? Using the back and forth method, you can deduce that it isn't a black shadow in the background as it moves with the grass in the foreground.
Using the zip file graciously provided by Dulcimer, I will list the frames where I see multiple BF.

#1 & 2 - Frame 159 to Frame 186 (Moving from right hand side of the frame to the left)
* NOTE: There is a possible 3rd BF on Frames 178 -> Near BF#1 moving right to left to meet BF #1, there is a small disturbance in the grass in front of it, revealing a small BF.
#3 - Frame 212 to Frame 225 (On the left hand side of the frame, doesn't appear to be moving but there is a clear black humanoid object there looking as it is going to move right.
#4 - ****
HOLY CRAP, I kid you not, as I am slowly going through the frames to mark how many I see... I just noticed something ELSE :O
*** #4 & 5 - Frame 268 to 285 (From 268 you see a black object standing clearly on the left hand side of the frame... NOW, here is the HOLY CRAP moment. Skipping forward and back through the next frames, you notice VERY CLEARLY a BF dart from the left to the right through the tips of the grass on the top middle-right of the frame, AND IT WAS MOVING FAST. So I believe there are 2 BF in this range off frames. (I first noticed this on the MOV file using the arrows to skip frames)
#6 - Frame 301 to Frame 315 (BF puts his head out of the grass to see where the spectator was, before he makes his exit in the next couple frames. Frames 330 >

I however didn't noticed the grey moving blobs that magic mentioned.

So instead of this turning out to be a BF sighting, it has turned out to be a BF sighting with a possible mate to a BF sighting of a small BF family.

Oh, also I went back to the couple frames I pointed out to a fast moving BF... What it could be is simple grass occlusion with blurring that makes it look like a fast moving black object. But I still do believe that there is a BF on the left side of those mentioned frames.

[edit on 23/11/2005 by Sovaka]

Before reading people's posts i feel i saw more than one creature in the film. i'm thinking 3 or 4.
and i believe the video is real. i have no expert knowledge to back me up. just adding my opinion.