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ATS.C: The Biggest Pitfall on ATS

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posted on Nov, 19 2005 @ 04:24 PM
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PODcast: The Biggest Pitfall on ATS
Relentless Speaks About the "Christian Conspiracy". NOT an attempt at conversion, but rather a discussion of the problem.

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Edit: Geez - Another typo in my intro


[edit on 11/19/2005 by Relentless]





posted on Nov, 19 2005 @ 05:39 PM
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Excellent!

I don’t understand this either. I don’t know why people are so uncomfortable with the idea that some people are believers or have religion as an important part of their lives and some people don’t. Some believe in alternative ideas, have different faiths, ideas and beliefs. They’re all interesting and valuable.

I don’t know why it’s an issue, really. I have some great discussions about religion, but I would never try to convince anyone that they’re wrong for having their faith or not.

I do wish we could all understand that each of our paths is different and that we are all ‘right’ and none of us is ‘wrong’.



posted on Nov, 19 2005 @ 05:55 PM
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PODcast: The Biggest Pitfall on ATS (reply 1)
Spirituality, The favorite topic of this spiritual anarchist

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posted on Nov, 19 2005 @ 05:57 PM
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Yes BH, It's like the song Imagine - there's no heaven. Take it one step further, (when he sings no religion) - IMAGINE we can live in peace no matter what we believe..........

Religion is not "bad" because it tears us apart. Man is bad for using religion to tear us apart.

There's a BIG difference.



posted on Nov, 19 2005 @ 06:12 PM
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In my podcast I mentioned that I write and said i'd put up a link to some of my stories on spirituality. Here's a couple that have been published online and in the real world as well. I hope you enjoy them.

Wildflowers

Angels

Tenacious Life

Love and light my friends,

Wupy

[edit on 19-11-2005 by mrwupy]



posted on Nov, 19 2005 @ 06:40 PM
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PODcast: The Biggest Pitfall on ATS (reply 2)
More thoughts after MrWupy

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posted on Nov, 19 2005 @ 07:12 PM
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PODcast: The Biggest Pitfall on ATS (reply 3)
My wish for you is happiness...

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posted on Nov, 19 2005 @ 07:39 PM
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PODcast: The Biggest Pitfall on ATS (reply 4)
Okay - I'm not unhappy in that sense - lol

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Edit: Honestly - I don't think I can post a speaking post without a typo in the heading


[edit on 11/19/2005 by Relentless]




posted on Nov, 19 2005 @ 07:50 PM
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PODcast: The Biggest Pitfall on ATS (reply 5)
a few thoughts of mine on the topic and I do have to agree with ya relentless

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posted on Nov, 19 2005 @ 08:00 PM
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PODcast: The Biggest Pitfall on ATS (reply 6)
I'm loving this conversation : )

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posted on Nov, 20 2005 @ 06:24 AM
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Thanks for the contribution silentlonewolf. You are right, it's not a winable argument to debate what religion holds the truth, and I think the key is that all of us who consider ourselves "more spiritual" in general, whether we adhere to a specific religion or not, are on the right path.

As for the story about the woman you knew who was thrown out on the street for all intents and purposes, this does not exemplify Christianity. I can understand why the school did this, but not why they didn't provide for her at the same time, so that she wasn't put in a position of having no future. This is wrong, and to treat anyone as if they have made a mistake and are condemned forever for it, is also not Christianity.

The bottom line, as you pretty much stated, is once these discussions have turned to debate, in the instance of religion and beliefs, it's only option is to deteriorate into my stated pitfall, because it is an unwinable argument.

MrWupy, I just want to point out, that in spritual growth, it's not always a case of coming and/and or growing in and out of an organized religion. There are instances where you can continue to grow within a creed, once you find the truths within it that are the teachings of God, and get beyond the teachings of man. Finding a path within an "organized" religion does not always mean that you are trapped by the teachings of man over God.



posted on Nov, 20 2005 @ 07:03 AM
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PODcast: The Biggest Pitfall on ATS (reply 7)
BH weighs in on happiness, growth, contentment and respect.

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posted on Nov, 20 2005 @ 12:06 PM
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PODcast: The Biggest Pitfall on ATS (reply 8)
BH, so eloquently stated!

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posted on Nov, 20 2005 @ 06:12 PM
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OK, so sometimes I get a little carried away. I'm sorry if I offended anyone.

I do believe that everyone has the right to walk the path they choose in peace. My sincere hope is the day will come when everyone can.

Love and light,

Wupy



posted on Nov, 20 2005 @ 06:22 PM
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PODcast: The Biggest Pitfall on ATS (reply 9)
BH explains why she talks in the first person.

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posted on Nov, 20 2005 @ 06:37 PM
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I just want to re-iterate on BH's last pod. It is important that we speak in the first person to avoid confusion, but Wupy - I LUV YA! and therefore did not take anything the wrong way, just want everyone to see the Wupy I have come to know and love.

Peace and light.



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