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Originally posted by seawater999
if you want an open-minded response, don't ask close-ended questions like this:
Originally posted by eddiemaiden_80
So did thses angels or ufo's which decended from the sky bring down a baby named Jesus?
And if so why?
Originally posted by FarFromDanK
Whompa i know what your trying to do and it isnt working..because obviously you didnt prove that abraham didnt wash gods feet,or feed him...and the point i was trying to make ..is howcome the almighty god,would need anyone to clean his feet,or feed him..unless god is no more human they we are...then i could understand why he might need a drink or a bite to eat...but if god is a spirit and not flesh and bone...then why?....why would god tell abraham it was ok to fetch the water...please whompa try harder!..prove to me that he didnt feed him or give him a drink....
[edit on 21-11-2005 by FarFromDanK]
Originally posted by FarFromDanK
Whompa,exactly why would i need to post the whole chapter,if i could prove my point without using the entire chapter...i proved my point...and thats the end of the convo!
Originally posted by Zaimless
Yes I have read this too, it is in Ezekiel and is stated as follows in the KJV:1: And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
 Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures
But one must note here, this is a revised bible, in the older versions it says metal not amber.
Originally posted by Charlie Murphy
Originally posted by Rasobasi420
travel to a close star is definately possible in a lifespan.
The time taken to get to Alpha Centauri would be approximately 40-50 years. Im not sure at what age Adam became an astronaut but assuming he is at least 30 when he leaves, and he lives to the ripe old age of 80, there is no chance for a return trip. Simply traveling is possible, but a mission to learn and record data is not really feasible as everyone on board would be old and decrepit. This is of course assuming these humans have a life expectancy under 100 years, not 500-900.
I do think interstellar travel is possible of course, but not a very good idea with todays technology.
I still have the question of how they are expected to procreate without imbreeding at some point in time.
Originally posted by nullster
If you could show an average world citizen in the 1500's some technologies we have today, you would most likely get an ominous description of what they were looking at. In other words something more grand than it actually is. Match that with how many accounts are written in the Bible by peoples well behind the science curve. They way they wrote, most anyone can read UFO's into their passages.
What I don't get is the continuing reference to fire, chariots and what not. People have to be real creative to assign metalic alien space craft to those descriptions. It's enough that prophets had to interpret and retell their "Visions" let alone someone in the 21st Century try and re-interpret someone elses vision.
Originally posted by Deep_MindQuest
www.ryanmcginty.com... FALLEN WATCHERS - EZEKIAL'S WHEELS-FIERY FLYING SERPENTS-CAST OUT THE RAPHA-m i r y c l a y-"T H E Y come from a far country, from the E N D O F H E A V E N--THE STONES OF FIRE-RAHAB-SHAPESHIFTERS-LOCUSTS-ABDUCTION-
WOMEN WILL GIVE BIRTH TO M O N S T E R S- And they were altogether two hundred, and they DESCENDED into ARDOS, which is the summit of
H E R M O N - the modern day CHUPACABRA enigma is a prime example of what a 'cockatrice' could be. A MONSTER created in a lab.- (GENESIS CH.6/MEN OF REKNOWN) Atlantis-- s o n s o f G o d
Originally posted by polomontana
You asked where Cain's wife came from, here's your answer.
Cain's wife came from mankind. Mankind were already on the earth before Adam. Mankind is the product of what we call evolution and they are connected to the beast of the earth. Check out these verses:
Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
It goes on to say:
Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
If you notice verse 27 says image only but verse 26 said image and likeness. After the story of Adam is told, this is what the Bible says:
Genesis 5:1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
If you notice in this verse about Adam it's Likeness only.
So, Adam(Likeness) Mankind(Image). Mankind is connected to the beast of the earth(evolution) and Adam is from the dust of the ground. This is who Cain was scared of in this verse:
Genesis 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
Originally posted by FarFromDanK
Why is god know to travel to earth using clouds? well clouds do move across the sky,what else moves across the sky,UFO"S,could the description of clouds really have been the only way for the ancient ppl to describe ufo's,i think so!...god spoke to moses in a cloud..that cloud was a UFO..god led the children of israel by a cloud/ufo of fire at night,and a dark cloud by day...could this fiery cloud really have been a UFo with lights on it...think about it...they call ufo's clouds because thats the only thing that they knew that moves across the sky besides birds...but they wouldnt call it birds,because birds dont resemble ufo's as good as a cloud would,,,as for the fiery cloud...they would call any type of light, fire back then ,because they couldnt explain electricty in any other manner..so the fire on the cloud was nothing more then lights on Ufo...also god spoke to moses in pillar in a cloud....now this one is tricky so listen carefully...ok first imagine a cloud,which looks like the traditional ufo/flying saucer...now place a pillar directly in the middle of the cloud,and it would seem to resemble a beam ship..or being beamed up...the pillar was nothing more then the beam coming down from the cloud/spaceship and moses stepped into the beam and was taken in the cloud/ufo....so now do you get what im saying? if not check out ...www.bibleufo.com