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Originally posted by SpittinCobra
In the future when the sun starts to expand on its way to death and make it to hot to live here on earth.
Originally posted by Apoc
I guess my take is there is a certain amount of human hubris when it comes to human influence on the global environment. At every point in history humans have always thought they "mattered" more than they do.
Originally posted by sardion2000
It's not an either or argument, and framing it as such is well lazy at best and dishonest at worst. The main argument is HOW much the Sun contributes to clean up statistical models.
There is no one "real" cause for the current warming trend just infleunces and yes we do have an influence as does every single life form on this planet.
In fact it was an organism that made our planet O2 rich in the first place so it's not silly to think we could be altering our planet drastically as it has happened in the past.