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Skeletons in the closet??

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posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 01:15 PM
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My friend is a fire alarm tech here in Ottawa Canada. This friend of mine has always thought I was full of crap when it came to conspiracy theory, slowly over time he is becoming a believer.

Case and Point: I have always told him how the Masons were into some pretty freaky and weird stuff. Do I think Masons are evil, or out to take over the world, of that I can honestly say I have no opinion. Do they engage in some bizzare ritual practices, that could be easily construed as satanic or otherwise? Yeah I think so.

So my friend was telling me a story the other day of how one of his co-workers had to go to a Lodge to repair their fire alarm system. To get at the wiring he had to enter some rather tight crawlspaces. While he was looking around he took a look in a closet in the basement of the lodge and found: THREE SKELETONS (masters of the lodge most likely) and VIALS OF THEIR BLOOD stowed with them.

The guy was freaked out (he has no idea about any of this stuff) and told my friend this story after work. He was pretty disturbed and confused by the whole debackle.

Any one have any insights. Masons or otherwise, why there would be skeleton and vials of blood in a closet at a Masonic Lodge??




posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by robinm


Any one have any insights. Masons or otherwise, why there would be skeleton and vials of blood in a closet at a Masonic Lodge??


For the Black Mass on Tuesday nights, of course. It's always followed by a potluck supper and bingo.



posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by Masonic Light
For the Black Mass on Tuesday nights, of course. It's always followed by a potluck supper and bingo.


Actually we had to move our Black Mass to Wednesday nights because the Order of the Eastern Star was sacrificing virgins (or was it Virginians?) on Tuesday nights. Admittedly it took a special dispensation from the Grand Lodge but we pulled it off.

Oh well....I'm off to give some blood to the local Red Cross...don't want to give the Lodge too much for their vials when they put this old Past Master's bones in the basement closet. (Which reminds me...we need to install a basement too) It just never ends.



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by robinm
Any one have any insights. Masons or otherwise, why there would be skeleton and vials of blood in a closet at a Masonic Lodge??


I don't understand this question. I thought everybody has skeletons and vials of blood in their closet?

Seriously, it's probably all those (former) members who broke their obligations and had to be 'dealt with'. We always challenge anti-masons to come up with evidence that the penalties have been carried out, in the knowledge that the evidence is safely tucked away in the basement.

Guess we let this one slip...



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by Masonic Light

Originally posted by robinm


Any one have any insights. Masons or otherwise, why there would be skeleton and vials of blood in a closet at a Masonic Lodge??


For the Black Mass on Tuesday nights, of course. It's always followed by a potluck supper and bingo.


You not going to cook the goat for the potluck again are you?



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by lost in the midwest
You not going to cook the goat for the potluck again are you?


Our poor old goat is too stringy and tough. However, we are blessed to have several brothers who practice Voodoo so we generally cook the chickens that they sacrifice.



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by lost in the midwest
You not going to cook the goat for the potluck again are you?


COOK it?


Heck no!
That'd SPOIL it!


BARBARIANS!


We usually just drag ours around and let the Brothers slice off the hunk they like.


Save a lot of money that way -- never have to buy a new goat
-- not to mention the entertainment value.


Brother J-um
went for a "mountain oyster" t'other night
and got kicked square in HIS.


That'll teach him!


DD

Edit: I am the KING OF THE SMILIES!!


[edit on 18-11-2005 by Dedicated_Dad]



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 12:23 PM
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While it's been big fun kidding around here, this is how sick stuff gets started.


Originally posted by robinm
"...This friend of mine ... was telling me ... how one of his co-workers ..."


[SARCASM:]
Yep -- that's reliable information right there. Definitive PROOF of what them Evil maysonnaries is up to. You get the stakes, I'll get the gasoline, we'll have Billy-Bob bring along a truckload o' firewood and we'll burn them witches once and 'fer ALL!

See, my sister's friend was telling her how this guy she knew was going around peeping in windows and he saw YOU -- watching kiddie porn and doing unspeakable things to a guinea pig. Go ahead -- DENY IT! I want to see you PROVE you didn't do that! Come on? Can't do it can you. That PROVES you're a pig molesting pervert, don't it?
[:/SARCASM]

Edit:
Note: the aforegoing paragraph was intended to be a comical parody of the kind of heresay "evidence" and "prove it"-type demands often used against Masons. It was not intended to be a personal attack. Sorry if it was interpreted otherwise.
/Edit


One has to wonder why this coworker of a friend of yours didn't call the POLICE if he thought there was something sinister happening there. One also has to wonder why "...This friend of yours" didn't tell "one of his co-workers" to do so, or do so himself if he believed the story.

If there was no real suspicion of wrongdoing, one must also wonder why this friend of yours didn't tell one of his coworkers to ask the people who hired him. "Man, I gotta tell you... I opened this door because I was going to (insert whatever his excuse was here) and like to jumped out of my skin when I saw those skeletons. WTF is UP with THAT?.."

My guess is that this -- IF true -- has noting to do with any lodge of Symbolic masonry, and that there's a perfectly plausible explanation. IF they existed, they are most likely properly called PROPS. I've seen similar things in a Christian church, in theaters, movie and TV studios, schools, stores and shopping malls.

See, the whole things stinks of lies and misconstructions of fact, which is why my BIGGER guess is that the whole story is BS.

You asked...

DD

Edit: For G rated post.

[edit on 18-11-2005 by intrepid]

[edit on 18-11-2005 by Dedicated_Dad]



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by Trinityman
Seriously, it's probably all those (former) members who broke their obligations and had to be 'dealt with'. We always challenge anti-masons to come up with evidence that the penalties have been carried out, in the knowledge that the evidence is safely tucked away in the basement.


That would explain that odor in my lodge's basement... and all this time I thought it was just slightly moldy!



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 01:06 PM
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Wow, thanks DD. Gee, I never thought of that... of course it's all a big lie. Oh wait, this guy has no reason to lie. I talked with my friend to see if he might be getting drawn into some joke plot and he tells me this guy is an honest dude and would have nothing to gain from a lie. But thanks for your concern all the same DD.

No one is going to give me any useful info on this so I'll just let this thread die, like those dead Masons in the closet...



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by robinm
THREE SKELETONS (masters of the lodge most likely)

Wait, this repair tech can identify the skeletons of past masters of the lodge while crawling around an air duct? The blood too?


Why is it that these things ar:

  1. Actual Skeletons and blood
  2. Specifical that of Masters of the lodge



Also, you can not store human blood in glass jars in a closet. Not even evil masonic black blood. It will rot.



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by robinm
"...of course it's all a big lie ... this guy is an honest dude and would have nothing to gain from a lie...
"...No one is going to give me any useful info on this so I'll just let this thread die, like those dead Masons in the closet...


What would it take for you to consider something to be "useful info"?

How 'bout this:


Made up on the spot by DD to point out the obvious absuridty rampant in this thread
Skeletons are used in the Halloween (1,435th) Degree ceremony. Once reanimated through our resurrection ceremony, we dress them in Luciferian/Rosicrucian Cool-Whip-and-Crisco-costumes so they can assist us in our ritualistic Illuminati Sex Magick goat-riding blue-light special clown and pyramid festival.

The Jars of blood aren't from "old masters" but actually from the infants we sacrifice on the 33rd of every Jaloon, it's used as a condiment on our sacrificed-infant-and-goat sandwiches -- a favorite at the potluck supper which always follows a good human sacrifice.

We tried to keep all this a secret, and have succeeded for thousands of years, but we didn't anticipate a nosy electrician and now we've been discovered.

Curses!

I'll get you, my pretty!! And your little DOG TOO!!



Sorry to disappoint you Bud, but , and I'm typing VERY slow here, 'cause I don't want you to miss it,

The -- aforegoing -- "quote" -- is -- BS -- !

Perhaps you should re-read my post.

To make it easier for you to follow, I'll condense my musings into more direct language and try to avoid abstract concepts:

(1) If any person -- friend, anonymous "other", or yourself -- thinks there is something sinister happening ANYWHERE, (s)he should call the police. This is the simple duty of a good citizen.

(2) If there is no real suspicion of wrongdoing, but one simply cannot mind ones own business, then a reasonable and decent person would ask a member of the lodge to explain.

[Rant]
I can't understand why any reasonable person would be unwilling ask for an explanation, but feel no compunction whatsoever about going around talking smack about something they didn't understand, feeding ridiculous rumours.

Then again I (like all good Freemasons) am serious about my obligation to "Do unto others as I wish they should do unto me."

Obviously YMMV.

[/Rant]

Now, to repeat the most important and relevant part -- as I said,


"My guess is that this -- IF true -- has noting to do with any lodge of Symbolic masonry, and that there's a perfectly plausible explanation. IF they existed, they are most likely properly called PROPS. I've seen similar things in a Christian church, in theaters, movie and TV studios, schools, stores and shopping malls. ..."


Perhaps you should tell us what you'd consider "useful information" and we'll see what we can do!

DD

[edit on 18-11-2005 by Dedicated_Dad]Rookie Formatting
Edit Again -- can someone tell my why "size" looks FINE in preview but doesn't work in "post"?


[edit on 18-11-2005 by Dedicated_Dad]



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 03:35 PM
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Wow DD, you've been here less than 10 days and you feel the need to rant already?

I might also say that you've got your sarcasm down pat. Well done.



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 04:01 PM
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Sometimes what sounds funny in my head as I'm typing doesn't READ funny when posted on the page.

I'm also thinking "/soliloqy" might have been a better word than "/rant"

Sorry if I've offended anyone...

A



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by robinm
No one is going to give me any useful info on this


Nope. Not as long as you claim they are former Masters of the Lodge, etc.

Step back robinm and look at how ridiculous your statement is. Now REALLY....do you think that if someone (Masons or anyone else) had killed someone, kept their skeleton and vials of their blood...they'd just stick them in a closet and allow some random $#*%-head who's working on the wiring or plumbing, etc. DISCOVER the remains???????? C'mon rob! THINK (for a change) do you REALLY believe that? If so, how could the Ancient and Honorable Fraternity of Free & Accepted Masons have remained so "Ancient" and "Honorable"
Sorry....your story is garbage....and frankly I think you heard it 5th or 6th hand and NOT from a close friend at all. I'm not allowed to call you a liar on this list (certain fundamentalist moderators...who are in reality pretty nice guys...will give me "warnings" if I do) So, again, I say THINK about what you're posting.



so I'll just let this thread die, like those dead Masons in the closet...


Well...we all have to die, now don't we? But as is indicated above...I DOUBT there were (or are) any dead Masons in a closet....I mean after all...don't you think their FAMILIES would wonder what happened to them?


(Don't be afraid to THINK rob, ol' boy. It MIGHT do you some good)


Regards,

Senrak, PROUD, non-skeletal Past Master (not even any vials of my blood floating around....)



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 04:40 PM
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Senrak, PROUD, non-skeletal Past Master (not even any vials of my blood floating around....)

Hey Senrak when you shuffle off this mortal coil, We have room for you in our lodge's closet.:



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by lost in the midwest
Hey Senrak when you shuffle off this mortal coil, We have room for you in our lodge's closet.:


Well...it's comforting to know where one will spend eternity!



posted on Nov, 19 2005 @ 12:12 AM
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Tell you guys what I am going to do.

I will try and dig more info out of my friend. Maybe these skeletons are props, but from what this guy said they were pretty lifelike, movie quality replicas at the least. I will see my friend most likely tommorow (Saturday) and will dig.

I just don't like to post something and be made out to seem like I am an idiot. If anything, I am overly trusting of people and try to take them at face value. With regards to my friends, and this friend who mentioned this to me in particula,r what he told me I know is not a lie, however I do NOT know his friend so there is a possibilty he could be BSing. Maybe I should go through an entire CIA fact check before I post "my stupidity" on this forum.

Here's a rant

If you are going to criticize someone for posting and be an A to the double S to the H-O-L-E, don't expect me to sit and listen to it. I can easily drop out the thread and vanish all together. If you want to flex your intellectual muscle try and get on Crossfire or the O'Reilly factor, the world can always use more arrogant pundits. If tearing apart people's threads is how you guys get kicks, then I could see how you would need to join a fraternal brotherhood to make friends in the real world.



posted on Nov, 19 2005 @ 12:15 AM
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Wow that was harsh eh?

Just how I feel, nothing personal guys. But I expect retaliation, too many egos out there, DD I am sure you can relate.



posted on Nov, 19 2005 @ 01:09 AM
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Skeletons in closet? Would that like be a fetish for female wrestlers giving me a submission leg scissor to the head? I thought that was a gorgeous female wrestler that was in my closet.



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