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A theoretical M.I.B. question......

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posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by GaMbLeR
wait wait wait wait....You're saying the MiB, the agency from the movie, IS REAL?!?! LOL. I really think some people really do not think about what they are posting. If you read you're thread 3 times over, I think you would realize the same.


No...what I am saying is the government agency that would deal with the "problems" mentioned in the orignal post are so far removed from what you saw in the movie that making a comparison is what is laughable.

- One Man Short




posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 02:33 PM
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if they did threaten my life and i was able to gain control them without killing them i would most likely take them somewhere and torture them until they gave me all the alien knowledge they posess. probably take them deep underground so if they have transmitters they would be inoperable. that is unless they have subterranean partners that could locate them that way. i'm getting excited just thinking about this.



posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by Yetichi
if they did threaten my life and i was able to gain control them without killing them i would most likely take them somewhere and torture them until they gave me all the alien knowledge they posess. probably take them deep underground so if they have transmitters they would be inoperable. that is unless they have subterranean partners that could locate them that way. i'm getting excited just thinking about this.



Oh good lord, little butterfly have you learned NOTHING by reading this thread?

You do not have the ability to overtake the agents that will show up at your door.

You do not have the knowledge of where or when they will show up, so you can never be 100% prepared.

You do not have the ability to TORTURE trained government black / ops agents.

You do not have the foresight to anticipate every move the ops agents could make, therefore you can not out think them.

Now remmber I am not coming down on you personally, I am saying NO ONE outside of the very agency itself has the ability to derail these chaps.

How many threads here are about "HOW I BEAT MIB AT IT'S OWN GAME"?

There is a reason we don't chat with anyone who can say they have taken on black / ops and won!

- One Man Short



posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 04:27 PM
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You do realise that if they didn't have snoopers/back up they will now. The world governments constantly monitor things like this to make sure people are silenced.
Are any of you familiar with this? www.subversiveelement.com...

If you read all of that and listen to the file, if you weren't paranoid before you will be now!!!

On a lighter night I saw a white van on the main road and guess what it was advertising?

MAJESTIC flowers!!!



posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by Alpha Grey
would it be a wake-up call to the higher echelon that maybe the people of the U.S. are fed up with the so called M.I.B. and their bull......

seems to me if someone stood up to these M.I.B. then they might just go away......or at least think twice about who they go threaten......


so what are the theories on this????



I'm not sure we've spent enough time evaluating and analyzing what their intentions or purpose is. What they are doing and what they are doing it for, well ... .. . we are in the equasion, we just don't always comprehend how.

Intentions dictate Beliefs, and beliefs dictate actions and behaviors.

Peace.

[edit on 17-11-2005 by Esoteric Teacher]



posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 04:38 PM
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Are any of you familiar with this? www.subversiveelement.com...

If you read all of that and listen to the file, if you weren't paranoid before you will be now!!!




You are aware that the some answering machines (my uniden included) ring your number back automatically AFTER you leave a message, right?

Many a time on my machine people leave a message and then you hear it ring back and then about 20 seconds of them saying "hello...hello"

That is all those recordings are. Nothing to do with black / ops.


- One Man Short





[edit on 17-11-2005 by One Man Short of Manhood]



posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 04:48 PM
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Perhapse modern MIB use a variety of tactics other than that of the physical presence intimidation technique - remember that episode of the X-Files were Moulder beliieved he was going crazy, and it turned out that a hallucinogenic gas was being pumped into his apartment?



posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 04:57 PM
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they would probably have recon snipers a mile a way from your house with a big ol' crosshair painted right on your heart.




EDIT: grammar

[edit on 17-11-2005 by firstplacerifles]

[edit on 17-11-2005 by firstplacerifles]


PKD

posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 04:57 PM
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Guns generally don't have any effect on simulacra's, aside from putting them offline. You probably wouldn't have the will to even pull it out, as your thoughts would be intercepted and so would your sidearm.



posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 05:12 PM
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The original question in this thread is not entirely without merit. However, the poster assumes two things which may be incorrect when weighed against other personal accounts. 1) That MIBs are a government group sanctioned to carry out intimidation on UFO experiencers. 2) that they are subject to physical retribution, attack, from a human.

From one personal account given me by a first hand experiencer who actually attacked a MIB, his attack via a .375 magnum was profoundly unsuccessful. Though his targeting of the MID was perfect, and the MIB had invited him to shoot at point-blank range, the shooter saw plumes of sand errupt behind the MIB while the shooter emptied his weapon. After reloading with a quick loader, the shooter once again emptied his weapon with the same effect. The MIB walked away.



posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 06:31 PM
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Whoa! How reliable is your friend and why did the MIB just walk? Had he already 'politely asked' him to forget what happened?
Can you post a detailed description of an MIB?



posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 06:41 PM
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I hate to burst you bubble, but anyone taking a shot at ANY government drone / spook would not be around long enough to tie his / her shoes, let alone tell a story about it!

Now, with that being said, IF this is really what your friend told you happened then we need to arrange for him to be over at your place sometime soon, and do a live thread / forum interview with him because he is a one-in-a-million survivor!

- One Man Short



posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 07:35 PM
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My friend is/was part of a special UFO recovery team. I type is/was because once you're in you're never out - retired or otherwise. Only death causes you to no longer be a team member.

Before you dismiss a person's contribution, be sure you know much, much more about the material they are commenting on than they do.

I'm confident I can get him to be a guest at some time in the near future. I would hope folks will be able to formulate intelligent questions for him such as: What is your service number so we can verify your identity. How long did you serve? What was your official designation while in the field? Have you had any one else independently verify your identity and participation with regard to what you're telling us?

I would hope those questions would be asked long before ANYONE decided to off-hand say the man and his career don't/didn't exist.

Edited for a PS: For Jack-something or other (sorry forgot your poster name).
Yes, there is a story recounting the entire experience he had and the story has been checked by him for accuracy.

[edit on 17-11-2005 by FEMA]



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by FEMA
My friend is/was part of a special UFO recovery team. I type is/was because once you're in you're never out - retired or otherwise. Only death causes you to no longer be a team member.


It is hard to not know what has been proven undeniable, and indisputable. Once you know, you are obligated to believe.



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 02:43 PM
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Killing a government agent is a absolutley flawless way of getting yourself on the FBI's 10 most wanted fugitives list (if you live in America that is).

A better method would be to invite them in and film the entire incident on video camera, or even better, using a small webcam directly onto you PC. Tape record the incident if possible. Covertly take photographs when they leave, photograph the vehicle they get into. Log the account. Try and get yourself a witness.

These type of things would be much more productive rather than shooting them on sight and who knows? Maybe even damaging!



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 03:12 PM
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This is the story I talked about. I had to talk to my friend and see if it was true (wasn't sure of this version) then I had to contact the writer to see if I could post it with permission. The writer said it was fine and Sgt. Stone once again confirmed it was accurate.

MIB encounter

This story is one in a series, about the life and times of Sgt. Clifford E. Stone who, for more than 22-years served with a special unit of the US Army which collected downed extraterrestrial craft and their occupants. All material in this series has been personally reviewed and approved by Sgt. Stone prior to publication.

There is an old saying which suggests that truth is stranger than fiction. Nowhere could that statement be more evident than with the reading of this story. The following incident took place during the last years of Sgt. Stones official tenure with the US Army.

“I had developed a friendship with a person in Texas named Tom. From time to time we would talk of UFOs and discuss different aspects of them. Our conversation this evening started out pretty much the same as it always had, but shortly after we started talking, things got a little strange.”

“Several minutes into our conversation we got cut off. It wasn’t a typical cut off. The phone went completely dead. No dial tone, no buzz, no hum, nothing. It would stay that way for 30 to 45 seconds. Then, the dial tone would come back up and I would try and call him only to get a busy signal because he was trying to recall me. This happened a couple times and I decided to take a look outside at the pole to see if something was going on.”

“I went into my backyard to see if I might have a loose wire or a bad connection. As I stepped into my yard, I noticed a figure standing alone. He asked if I had a light. I asked him what he was doing there and he told me we needed to talk. I asked him what we needed to talk about and he went on to say, “we can talk in your house, but I’m sure you will not like the flavor of the conversation, or you can meet me and we can go for a drive and we will talk.”

“He gave me directions which would take me to the local fire station were I was to meet him. I decided I would take his offer and went into my house to get my S&W .357 magnum along with a couple quick loaders. I didn’t feel immediately threatened by this person but my mom didn’t raise no fool if you know what I mean.” I told Cliff I understood and suggested I would have probably strapped guns to me like Tackeberry, of Police Academy fame.

Cliff giggled, then continued. “I drove to the fire station and was met by two people now. I got out of my car and locked it. He approached my car and opened the front door and slid in. Now I know I locked that door through force of habit. While I was stationed in Germany I picked up the habit because there was a significant fine for leaving your car unlocked. I just kept it in the back of my mind as he told me where to go. The trip would take me about 25 miles away from town. As we drove he made a comment about how we could drive with other vehicles coming at us with ‘bright suns’ shining into our eyes.”

I asked Cliff what this person looked like. “He was very neatly dressed. Had sharp creases in his pants and coat. The coat was a long type of trench-coat. He wore a black-felt-hat which was sort of a European looking design. He also had on dark sunglasses. So dark, I could not see his eyes, no matter how hard I looked. As we drove out of town, I noticed how very foggy it was. It was strange because the fog was so thick. We drove for a while then he told me to stop.”

“I stopped the car and we both stepped out. He asked me if I was willing to pay the price for what I was doing. I told him if that meant a court marshal, yes I would pay the price. He suggested I knew what he meant. I then noticed the other person he had been with at the fire station. That person turned and started walking up the hill that was there and I then heard a helicopter landing behind it. The person I had driven from town with turned and started to walk up the hill as well. He took several steps then paused and turned.”

“He started to speak again and the next few moments became bizarre. He said,” “I know you think you are safe because of the firearm you are carrying.” “He turned and faced me directly as he opened his trench-coat. He then ordered me to shoot him” “Shoot me. Shoot me now!” “With total and utter disregard for life, I shot. This was so unlike me but I did it without giving a second thought.”

The .357 erupted like thunder as the two shots fired in quick succession, headed for the strangers chest. Sgt. Stone watched as the two rounds sent up plumes of sand behind the stranger. The stranger spoke once again saying, “I know what you’re thinking, a bulletproof vest. Aim for the head, make a good head shot!” Although he had seen the plumes of sand jump, Sgt. Stone complied as the stranger turned to walk up the hill with the other person. More shots broke the silence. Sgt Stone reloaded and kept firing as he walked up the hill behind the two strangers. Again, he saw plums of sand jump into the air from the impact of the high-grain ordinance.

I asked Cliff what the two strangers had done as he was firing. He confessed somewhat confused, “They just kept talking to each other. They didn’t flinch or nothing, just talked. I followed them until I could see the shape of a helicopter. They got in and I noticed there was no light what-so-ever, coming from the craft. It looked like a Huey, but was all black. I can’t say
anything else other than it was, just strange.”

I asked Cliff what had happened next. “Well, I went back down the hill and got into my car, turned it towards town and started to drive. The fog was still thick and I drove slowly to make sure I did not run off the road or hit anything. I was trying to make sense of what had just happened when a rabbit ran out in front of my car. I hit the brakes but it was as though I was on ice, the car kept moving. I hit the animal and the car finally stopped. I got out of my car to see if the animal was suffering.”

“I looked back up the road and I saw the rabbit get up and hop to the side of the road. It sat down and it was then I noticed a number of rabbits along the side of the road. In fact, there were rabbits on both sides of the road, just sitting. It looked back in my direction and I returned to the car to head back to town. I drove for a few miles, when suddenly a tanker fuel-truck shot by me blowing its horn. The instant that happened the fog cleared and I followed it to town to Prices Truck Stop. I stepped from my car and showed my Army credentials. This is something I have only done about 20 times during my entire service with the Army. I wanted them to know that I felt they had been driving far too fast for the conditions.”

“As I told the driver what I thought about his driving he asked me, “What conditions? It was as clear as anything!” Then his buddy stepped from the truck and confirmed it was clear and they thought I was parked on the side of the road and it was not until they had gotten closer to me they noticed I was driving slow and they had to swerve to avoid hitting me. I could tell they were sincere in their account of what they thought had happened, so I apologized and went on home.”

“I didn’t sleep much that night. I tossed and turned. The next day I decided to go back out there to see what I could find. I arrived early and started to look the area over. The first thing I noticed was a 3-strand barbed wire fence running along the road, which I had no recollection of having crossed the night before. I found the hill I felt I had been on with the strangers and started to look for slugs. I found several. I spent most of the day trying to find them. As evening approached, I started to feel nervous and knew this was not a place I wanted to be when night fell. I drove back to town.”

Edit because MIB encounter title was in wrong place.

[edit on 18-11-2005 by FEMA]



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 03:46 PM
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That account sounds pretty truthful to me, although I have some questions.

1) I guess Sergeant Stone is an alias, but did the real sgt disappear, or 'leave town?'

2) Did he notice anything odd when he shot the MiB? (I mean like a distortion in their image as the bullet passed through. This would signify maybe a hologram?)



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 03:50 PM
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Clifford E. Stone is the man's real name and he lives in Roswell NM, the last place he was stationed before leaving the service.

As for a hologram, that hologram rode with him for 25 minutes out of town. It's doubtful.



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 03:55 PM
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Army Sgt. Clifford E. Stone, author of UFOS ARE REAL. Sgt. Stone served for more than 20 years as an Army nuclear/biological and chemical retrieval specialist.

Army Sgt. Clifford E. Stone, author of UFOS ARE REAL.
so not an alias.
www.ufoevidence.org...



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by FEMA
Clifford E. Stone is the man's real name and he lives in Roswell NM, the last place he was stationed before leaving the service.

As for a hologram, that hologram rode with him for 25 minutes out of town. It's doubtful.


I didn't neccessarily mean a hologram, I meant that maybe if there was a type of distortion on him it may mean that he has a type of refrection shield, or some other type of device. i was just using a hologram as an e.g.



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