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How do you make that distinction? What do you mean by "changes are due" exactly, if not a religous concept?
Originally posted by Amethyst
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The point here is, people who think Bush is a Christian will start blaming genuine Christians for the problems here in America--this is a plan of the Puppetmasters. People need to wake up and realize that Bush is NOT a Christian!
This is a spiritual war, though most people are ignorant of this fact.
[edit on 11/16/2005 by Amethyst]
Originally posted by jake1997
Some thoughts on thee above
God is intolerant of religion. The world unity movement is well under way. The RCC is right in the front. Christians who hold to their faith and belief in Gods word will be (ALREADY ARE) deemed intolerant.
I think The original poster is picking up on that vibe
Originally posted by Amethyst
They don't like those of us who say we should not tolerate sin.
In a let's-be-tolerant world, true Bible-believing Christians are not to be tolerated.
Originally posted by brimstone735
So, let me wade through this a bit, because I'm actually a little shocked at how forthright and honest you are - unfortunately.
You freely, and happily admit that you "choose" to be intolerant of other people and other cultures,
but then you're upset that those SAME PEOPLE choose to respond in like fashion, and be intolerant to you.
The arrogance and hypocrisy is simply astounding, on so many different levels, that it's hard comprehend, let alone rationalize. "Do unto others" and "we reap what we sow" go right out the window, replaced by a Burger King catch phrase, "My way, right away"
The Rapture simply can't come soon enough to wisk the "God Warriors' away on some magic carpet ride to the fairytale land of assimilation.
And good riddance.
Originally posted by Lilroanie
I'll stop being intolerant of *most* christians when they stop...
1) Coming through my gate that is plastered with *no solictors* *day sleeper do NOT knock on door before 4pm* and several other deterants about 5-6 times a month and knocking on my freaking door anyway.
3) When 99.9% of all christians quit telling me *you have to believe this or you will go to hell* irregardless of the fact that thier own book tells them they are not allowed to pass judgement, only thier g-d can.
4) When they all quit twisting thier own holy book to suit thier purposes and needs. Saying "Well it was written 2000 years ago, things have changed", won't wash either. Damn g-d must be stupid not to know what to write in his book that would suit ALL generations no matter what. Glad I have not aligned myself with such a stupid deity.
Either you believe or you don't, you cannot pick and chose what you want to believe and what not to out of the bible without invaildating everything your religion stands for.
5) I have NO problem with you all practicing your religion. I don't and really don't want to hear about it or be told how evil I am just because I don't believe in a book written by a few men to gain power over more men. I'll keep my beliefs to myself if you do the same. Unless it is to *discuss* without telling me how *bad* I am, then we can talk about your religion all day.
6) When they stop trying to regulate *MY* life when I am doing nothing to hurt anyone. By this I mean keep your religious morals/beliefs out of my bedroom, out of this countries laws and govt. SOME Religious morals have benefits to everyone but, christians have made the whole idea of religion so disgusting and repulsive to so many people it's ridiculous.
I don't feel we are headed to a country where christians are persecuted. I feel we are headed toward a country where we all have to be christians *or else*. Just like in the middle eastern countries with islam being the only religion allowed and you have no choice not to follow or follow something different etc.
Originally posted by Lilroanie
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3) When 99.9% of all christians quit telling me *you have to believe this or you will go to hell* irregardless of the fact that thier own book tells them they are not allowed to pass judgement, only thier g-d can.
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5) I have NO problem with you all practicing your religion. I don't and really don't want to hear about it or be told how evil I am just because I don't believe in a book written by a few men to gain power over more men. I'll keep my beliefs to myself if you do the same. Unless it is to *discuss* without telling me how *bad* I am, then we can talk about your religion all day.
Thanks for that piece of reality, especially points 3 and 5. I dont buy into the idea of chirstians being persecuted in the US any time soon. America is one of the most Christian countries on Earth, wouldnt this type of persecution start in Europe were people are much less religious? Having lived both in the U.S. and Britain, I've gotten a good perspective of an extremely religous country (US) and an extremely non-religious country (Britain). In Brtiain people from all walks of life seem to get along much better than in the U.S. I know this isnt only because of religion but I think it is a Major factor.
Why do the majority of the worlds religions believe in monotheism yet cant get along with each other? So many worship their Prophet not their God.
"Worshiping the lantern, not the light"
Originally posted by Amethyst
Techinically Christians are not really soliciting anything when you think about it. Just put a sign on your door if you're that set against it. My mother-in-law once put a NO JWs sign on her door!
Why do people have this need to spell God's name with a hyphen? At any rate, the Bible says we are to judge righteous judgment. The "judge not" applies to hypocrites. Calling something what it is, is not judging or prejudging.!
You're absolutely right. It's written that "man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." Too many professing Christians are what I call "cafeteria Christians." It just won't fly.
5) I have NO problem with you all practicing your religion. I don't and really don't want to hear about it or be told how evil I am just because I don't believe in a book written by a few men to gain power over more men. I'll keep my beliefs to myself if you do the same. Unless it is to *discuss* without telling me how *bad* I am, then we can talk about your religion all day.
Know what, we're all sinners. But the Bible was not written for a power trip. I don't know where you get that idea.
6) When they stop trying to regulate *MY* life when I am doing nothing to hurt anyone. By this I mean keep your religious morals/beliefs out of my bedroom, out of this countries laws and govt. SOME Religious morals have benefits to everyone but, christians have made the whole idea of religion so disgusting and repulsive to so many people it's ridiculous.
6) When they stop trying to regulate *MY* life when I am doing nothing to hurt anyone.
By your reasoning, then, murder shouldn't be illegal, theft shouldn't be illegal, perjury shouldn't be illegal...guess what those laws are based on?
6) When they stop trying to regulate *MY* life when I am doing nothing to hurt anyone.
I don't feel we are headed to a country where christians are persecuted. I feel we are headed toward a country where we all have to be christians *or else*. Just like in the middle eastern countries with islam being the only religion allowed and you have no choice not to follow or follow something different etc.
You're close--very close. Only the NWO's brand of "Christianity" will be allowed. True Bible-believing Christians will be persecuted. Just like in Constantine's day. He declared everyone Christians--BUT--it had to be HIS kind of Christianity, and the true believers were still being persecuted.
Did you know that Bible believers, along with Jews, were persecuted and killed during the Inquisition? And during the Holocaust? And during the Crusades? And history is going to repeat itself.
Originally posted by Amethyst
Why do people have this need to spell God's name with a hyphen?
Originally posted by Amethyst
...are what I call "cafeteria Christians."
Originally posted by Amethyst
By your reasoning, then, murder shouldn't be illegal, theft shouldn't be illegal, perjury shouldn't be illegal...guess what those laws are based on?