Originally posted by TerraX
Originally posted by solarstone
Umm, geesh. What have I been telling all these years? That Meier and his contacts want to be the authority of ufology related matters? Maybe I'm
wrong but when it comes to official presentations and lectures Meier's claims are simply copied and spoken out like the gospel by supposedly
objective researchers. (Wendelle Stevens not included.)
If Meier does keep advanced E.T. contacts that have told him the truth about these matters, don't you think it would be natural for him to be honest
about it even if it upsets others?
The emphasis is on "if", big time. The thing is, I don't think they tell the truth. In fact in one contact note (26) they, by their own admission,
say that when it comes to ufological matters they told only half the truth and that was only half explained. That's not the truth, that's a poor
extraction of it. With that in mind your notion that Meier is honest about it also becomes void since he hasn't retracted many accusations with the
exception when it was needed to save face. Apparently the Meier case 'elbows' its way up over the backs off others who made his job a little
easier.
And the real key word here is? You
think?
Meier has said he and the Plejarens will not tell humans everything if they think we will act irresponsibly with that knowledge.
What information has he retracted to save face? The photos of the girls? That's been explained. I personally don't know if it's truth or not, and
it's likely neither do you.
And of course some people are going to help the FIGU out when closed minded individuals attack them with little reason.
"The actual number of "alien abductions" and genuine extraterrestrial contacts according to the Plejaren."
Watch closely because this sentence sums it up. Meier and his alleged contacts have a point of view about the rest of ufological related matters which
in essence is purely speculative but it's forwarded as the truth. Alien abductions aren't that abundant. There are just a few according to Meier and
the abductions themselves are not that bad, he calls them "examination contacts" since the subjects are medically examined and returned. That
psychological damage is done is not so much of an issue in the Meier material. Maybe 'abductions' or 'examination contacts' aren't that bad even
when they are against your free will?
According to Meier there have been some not so nice E.T.'s abduct humans, but he likes to emphasise that these matters are often overplayed.
Really? You should look up his words because Meier not only downplays the extent of the abductions but the criminal act itself as well. He calls them
"examination contacts" and leaves out the fact that people are taken against their will. Not a word on that! Not a word on the psychological trauma
that is done. Look up his words before pretending you know what you're talking about.
On his FIRST contact with Semjase, the female E.T. states:
www.figu.org...
33.There are also different life forms that have acquired much knowledge and have freed themselves from their environment. They travel through space
and occasionally come to Earth.
34. Many of them are rather unpleasant creatures and live in a type of barbarism that frequently is nearly as bad as the terrestrials'.
35. You should be aware of them because they often attack and destroy everything that gets in their way.
36. Many times they have even destroyed whole planets or forced their inhabitants into bondage.
37. It is one of our missions to warn the people on Earth of these creatures.
38. Let this be known to the Earth people because the time is approaching when a conflict with these degenerate human creatures becomes
unavoidable.
Please look up their words yourself before pretending to know what
your talking about.
"Genuine extraterrestrial contacts" is another point high on the agenda of the Meier case. When you investigate this aspect you'll find
that many of the so-called contactees who've reached publicity in the past (and present) are labeled as frauds, eventhough some of them had
photographs, films and eyewitnesses (family&friends) to back up their claims. Just like Meier has, but that doesn't seem to give the impression in
some people that Meier is a debunker himself who insists on viewing aspects of his case objectively but not in other cases that have the same
elements. Meier comes up with speculative debunking arguments that other 'contactees' faked their pictures using models and even outlandish claims
that the some used 'suggestive powers' or 'hypnosis' to let others see things that weren't there. Sadly this doesn't help some people one bit
who are more then ready take Meier's word for it and that of his contacts.
If Meier does keep advanced E.T. contacts that have told him the truth about these matters, don't you think it would be natural for him to be honest
about it even if it upsets others?
Here's another option which seems to have escaped your attention. Meier could have lied and his contacts (who only deal with him) could have lied.
Maybe Meier doesn't have such advanced E.T. contacts. Ever thought of that?
It appears my question has escaped
your attention. Maybe because your answer shoud have read "YES"?
The question you then asked never escaped my attention.
Are you a psychic? No? Then stop trying to pretend to read my mind and assume i'm someone shut off to other possibilities.
Watch out for Meier and his 'new religion' which depends mostly on 'ufo believers'. From my perspective it's not so much a point of being the
source of truth but becoming the source of truth.
Meier and the FIGU have never asked anyone to believe in whatever they say. They just want people to pay more attention and investigate more deeply.
This is dualistic. I know, they say that people are free to accept it or not. But on the other hand lets not forget that Meier makes far reaching
claims concerning religion. (He supposedly is the reincarnated spirit of many biblical prophets, the same reincarnated spirit that we mistakenly call
Jesus Christ, and Mohammed. He also discovered the original bible but it got lost.) Dare I say that that is a belief system? Since the case is
interlocked with ufology, dare I say that the target group are the UFO believers with various religious backgrounds? Dare I say that promoting these
aspects of the case at lectures and other presentations is reminiscent of the work of the apostles? Dare I say that the case is trying to create a
following? A following that buys every word Meier and contacts utters?
Again if someone knows an experience to be truth you say they should not make their "far reaching" claims known to the world?
And no I would not say they have created a belief system. Individuals can make it their belief system but that does not mean the FIGU is responsible
for
their irresponsibility particularly when thay have said many times how stupid it would be to use FIGU's info in that way.
I feel the target audience are not to be "believers" but simply those interested in these issues. Of course they woud like to creating a following
of intelligent people, and I don't feel they're invading peoples lives the way
you seem to believe or in a manner compareable to todays
religions
You're right. Pay more attention and investigate.
Yes I know.
