It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
It's impossible to toss a rope up through the dozens of branches of neighboring trees to get it in place around the top part of a taller tree within a grove.
Still watching for anything decent "against" the Meier case.... haven't seen anything yet.
Originally posted by TerraX
I'll give you something decent. This is an excerpt from Wikipedia on the subject of Billy Meier, no doubt written by someone like you.
"A farmer born in the Swiss Lowlands, Meier says his first extraterrestrial contacts occurred at the age of five, indirectly resulting in a difficult childhood. He ran away and joined the French Foreign Legion but left it and returned home. He travelled extensively around the world pursuing spiritual exploration, covering some 42 countries over 12 years."
Although you Meier supporters are fond off saying you have the truth, the above isn't exactly it, now is it? "He ran away" is accurate but some matters are omitted. If I recall correctly Wendelle Stevens mentioned in his book that Meier spend some 4,5 years in prison and insane asylums until he decided to break out. Prison break is what it's called. Not your upstanding citizen huh? Stevens mentioned that Meier fled to France and joined the French Foreign Legion, another fine institution known throughout the world for harbouring criminals that want to disappear. So in the Wikipedia article it is correct that Meier joined the French Foreign Legion.
A new 'problem' arises. The article says that Meier joined the F.F.L. "but left it"... Actually the more appropriate, more truthful word, would be that he deserted. Isn't it? Meier comments on this period that he fled while on assignment in Algeria. That's called desertion. Saying "he left" is woefully short of the truth.
Ok, now hold on for a moment. Meier busted out of prison [rather, the psychiatric clinic] in Switzerland and deserted from the French military. What do I see next in the article.
"He travelled extensively around the world pursuing spiritual exploration, covering some 42 countries over 12 years." Another fine distraction from the actual circumstances. What happens when you break out of prison and desert from the military, will people come looking for you? Dare I say that Meier had outstanding warrents for his arrest in Switzerland and France, and possibly other European countries with extradition treaties, during his "travels around the world exploring spirituality". Another phrase you could make and what is truthful at the same time, is that "he was on the run from avoiding capture".
Originally posted by Jim Deardorff
There's alot left out of any two or three sentence summary of Meier's youth. Especially, Meier's side of the story is left out. Having actually been contacted many times by Sfath in his youth and educated way beyond his years, he became quite indifferent to school and events around him, and withdrew into himself. (I find this to be realistic, myself.) It caused him to be the butt of jokes and be blamed for hooliganism and considered uneducable. So Meier was then placed in different juvenile institutions. But they always had to release him, learning that he was intelligent and no menace to society. But he continued to be unresponsive to society, saying nothing when accused of crimes committed by others, causing him at least once to be taken into temporary custody by the police. Some time after that he was placed in a special department of the psychiatric clinic at Rheinan, Swiitzerland. (Google confirms the existence of a psychiatric clinic and hospital there still today.) After being in a locked room there for a month he finally decided to take action for himself, and found a way to escape from a 2nd-story window, breaking some bones in his right foot or ankle from having jumped out and landing on concrete. But he managed to climb over a fence and crawl away into a forest over a mile away to hide. But that night he heard barking dogs from a search crew, so he limped further away until finding himself rolling down a slope to the edge of the Rhein River. He decided to swim down the river to escape them, and swam down far enough to be able to end up on the French side
of the river. There he joined the French Foreign Legion, and only then did he receive treatment for his ailing foot. With the FFL he ended up in Algeria, and then fled (deserted) the FFL by crossing a part of the Sahara.
I'm not at all sure that that was true. If someone around age 16(?) is no menace to society and breaks out of a psychiatric clinic, would they be hunting him down around the world a year later? It seems logical that the FFL would be on the lookout for Meier, however, but this would in no way mean that he wasn't beginning to explore world spirituality at that time, and not thinking or worrying about "being on the run."
Originally posted by jpl
Most, if not all the stuff said against Meier falls apart like wet tissue paper when examined logically "in context" to the info provided.
Originally posted by jpl
Tx, you DO have a sense of humour !!
Not that any of this is worthwhile logically, and doesn't prove anything whatsoever one way or the other... but i simply can't help the following:
Jesus/Jmmanuel was cruxified... what type of a criminal was he?
Now... using this same type of logic, would you also care to "take on" the entire christian population??
Perhaps i will check in from time to time... this forum IS pretty good !!
Later all, eh?