Billy Meier called the New Nostradamus!?!?, page 1
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Topic started on 16-11-2005 @ 08:03 PM by Centrist
I know there are LOTS of threads about Billy Meier. This thread is not intended to discuss the merits of his claims, predictions, or writings. What this thread about is this story being reported on the major Washington D.C. news radio station.

Why is this of interest? Simple... WTOP news is the station that is offering the predictions of Billy Meier as "food for thought" to their listeners. WTOP is not some small-market, off-beat radio station. It's the most popular radio station in Washington, D.C. and has an all news format. It's a very serious station that's relied upon by most of the local population (of a few million people) for news, weather, and traffic reports... and during the extremely long commutes that many of us who live in the area endure, we've recently been treated to a discussion of Billy Meier! Imagine my shock!

Ok... here's the question... WHY? What has caused a major radio station that broadcasts to a population that includes the U.S. Senate, Congress, and some of the most affluent and influential people in the U.S. to, rather suddenly, start broadcasting Billy Meier's predictions and the fact that he got his information from alien beings?

Again.. here's the link. The news station does portray the links to Meiers very appropriately, but the fact that it's made it to what amounts to near-national headlines is mind boggling.

For those interested, WTOP is a news-radio station owned by the Bonneville Corporation. That same corporation also owns the Washington, D.C. ABC-TV affiliate, as well as other major radio and television stations around the country.



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reply posted on 17-11-2005 @ 12:25 PM by Centrist
Again, I'm not interested in testing the validity of Meier's predictions. I'm well-convinced that, in the absence of further evidence, his predictions were based on news reports of the times when they were made and his alleged alien encounters are fictious.

What's got me wondering is why a prominent news radio station would decide to give air time to this whack-job? Anyone who's ever been in the media business knows that you are very careful about giving press to "fringe" groups, fanatics, or people that will piss off your advertisers and/or listeners/viewers/readers.

WTOP is one such station. They tend to be an excellent, unbiased news source because they have ties to ABC, CBS, USA Today, and many local business (i.e., they try to keep everything on the "Straight and Narrow" to avoid stepping on toes). As well, they tend to avoid portraying stories in a manner that would embarrass either political party -- they report these stories, but they don't try and "slant" them the way the editors of the network news do to promote their own polical agenda (like Dan Rather and the president or Peter Jennings and UFO's).

WTOP is steady and reliable. It's a great news station for people who like to get the actual news and not the "spin".

So why does this station, through a very good and credible reporter, decide to give time to Billy Meier?

Here's a few thoughts....

1 -- any discussion of UFO's would be problematic. The stories generally lead toward government consipracy, but WTOP doesn't want to irritate the government officials they rely on for actual news.... so no UFO stories about Area 51, Roswell, etc. at least until there's hard evidence.

2 -- Billy Meier is some foreign whack-job with claims that appear intriguing on the surface. Discussing him won't annoy anybody the station needs for actual news. Also, people get interested in hearing about his predictions and reading his site.

3 -- the news editors at WTOP tend to be "in the know". These are VERY well connected and responsible news people. They don't sit on stories, but they don't report them before they're "ripe". They do, at times, start talking up stories in advance, knowing that there's something bigger coming down the road.

4 -- Does the news editor at WTOP know something?

5 -- Did someone suggest that this topic will become "hot" soon?

6 -- Are they giving air-time to a whacko as a preemptive way of reminding the public that UFO's are for whackos and not to be believed? Perhaps in advance of something?

7 -- Oddly, they were also warning people last night that NORAD was going to be conducting tests overnight (last night) to see how well they could shoot down an aircraft infringing on restricted airspace. The tests, they said, may be accompanied by some strange noises and odd lights in the sky.

WHAT?!?!

Ok... lets take another look at number 7 and put our thinking caps on...

A few more facts...

I was unable to locate ANY news items on the supposed NORAD test last night.

UFO's are not new to the area... here's a
little-discussed sighting from about 3 years ago over D.C.

Was the whole Billy Meier thing on the radio a coincidence? Maybe.

Maybe not.


reply posted on 7-12-2005 @ 10:49 AM by 8Michael12
I would like to make a general reply to the questions raised here since the interview on WTOP was with me. First, the reason that the interview was conducted was that Meier predicted the unrest, arson and riots in France (and the fact that it would be the inhabitants of a diffferent religion, "specifically Islam") on two occasions. The first was in 1981, and the second in 1987. I first read the 1981 prediction in 1986 and the ones from 1987 (which also contained the forewarning re the WTC) in 2002. Perhaps more importantly, since you don't need to take my word for it, I reported on it on my DVD, which was released in 2004, more than a 1 1/2 years BEFORE the events occurred. Of course, there are numerous other items on the DVD, or updated at www.theyfly.com for free, that easily confirm both the accuracy and authenticity of the predicitions, as well as the case and Meier's claims of ongoing extraterrestrial contact.

The REAL "mind-boggling" story here is how and why the Meier case has been supressed by the media (and government) for decades and why people who offer their quick dismissals and cheap opinions are so woefully uninformed of the very well-documented facts in this case.

Having spent more than 26 years researching the case, and doing so because I had 2,000 pages of Meier information in 1986 with specific items foretold (including the French riots) that didn't begin to occur or be discovered until 1988, I now KNOW that the case is true and authentic...but I can't say that all the information is true simply because much of it refers to events in the very distant past or future events that haven't occurred yet and/or may not occur. But so far what I've been able to test through internet searches, etc. (which weren't available to rural-dwelling Meier in the 1950s on up) has checked out impeccably.

I would be willing to again address this issue here if there is interest in it but only with people who will trouble themselves to do their homework...like David Burd of WTOP did and others are now doing. There is a fair amount of info freely available at www.theyfly.com. And if anyone really wants to view the Marcel Vogel metal alloy analysis or hear some of the other scientists who examined Meier's evidence speak about it we have videos, books, CDs, DVD, etc.

A couple of other things, the top professional skeptics tried and failed to duplicate any of Meier's photographic evidence...so will you if you wish to try. And you won't be able to duplicate the sound recordings either (free download at my site) or the video or the new seven-fingered handprints.

Next, regarding the "thing on a string" comment, ignorant as it was of the facts:

From: UFO Contact from the Pleiades
A Preliminary Investigation Report

Copyrights 1982, 1982, 1980, 1979, 1978 Wendelle C. Stevens

"For analysis of the moving picture sequences of the Pleiadian spacecraft filmed in color in super 8mm format by Eduard Meier we turned to Mr. Jun-Ichi Yaoi of Tokyo, Japan, a world recognized expert in the film and television industry, now working as an officer in Nippon Television Corporation.

In the 18 March sequence Meier filmed the spacecraft circling a large tree in front of a farmhouse. The sky was overcast with a low ceiling, and occasionally light snowflakes fell. The motion of the spacecraft looks suspiciously like it is tethered from above as it appears to circle the tree and then to swing back and forth over the tree, except that on three occasions the spacecraft changes its motion abruptly with no change in the tilt of the vertical axis of the ship. If it was in fact tethered, one would expect the vertical axis to tilt as the tether point above was moved. In another measurement it was found that the tilt angle of the vertical axis in one oscillation sequence was sufficient that the axis crossed within the frame and would have put the tether point within the picture. No tether point source was revealed, in one of the final oscillation sequences the object appeared to pass directly over the top of the tree, and it is clearly seen that the tree was swept over in the direction of the spacecraft, or appeared to follow the spacecraft as it passed. Clearly no model could have produced this effect. When we revisited the scene we found that the tree had died and was cut down."

I will be interested to see if there is serious and intelligent interest in the case on this forum and, if so, you'll get as much respectful response form me as time permits.

Best,

Michael Horn
Authorized American Media Representative
The Billy Meier Contacts
www.theyfly.com


reply posted on 8-12-2005 @ 11:06 PM by 8Michael12
Ah, charges of fraud and financial profiteering again from some lunkheads who, naturally, haven't troubled themselves to do ANY homework on the case, the veidence, the proof, the 120+ witnesses, the other 5 photograpehrs, the scientfic experts, the analysis, Meier or me.

Okay, for what it's worth, I represent the case VOLUNTARILY, as in for free, gratis, at no charge, etc. I produced my DVD, do my research including traveling to meet and interview the prinipals in the case, etc. on my own dime - and I average about 6-10 hours per day doing it. But since this is a country that worships money, and is filled with pea-brains who accuse everyone else of the same low-life values for which we're becoming world famous...what should one expect?

So while you "have to agree about the financial aspect" "fraud" and all the rest, why don't you lazy, armchair experts trouble your poor overworked minds to actually PROVE your claims? Wait! Don't answer, I've heard it all before..and it's simply endless excuses or deafening silence.

So enjoy your small-minded little club but do know that it's the run of the mill, narrow minded, lazy types such as yourselves who demonstrate exactly why we will not only NOT have any contact with more advanced and intelligent races but why we'll allow absolutely moronic "leaders" to incinerate the planet...the one thing that the beings involved in this case had hoped to help prevent.

Unfortunately, as is demonstrated here, we're too damn stupid and arrogant to be worth the bother.


reply posted on 8-12-2005 @ 11:18 PM by Ram
Originally posted by 8Michael12
In the 18 March sequence Meier filmed the spacecraft circling a large tree in front of a farmhouse. The sky was overcast with a low ceiling, and occasionally light snowflakes fell. The motion of the spacecraft looks suspiciously like it is tethered from above as it appears to circle the tree and then to swing back and forth over the tree, except that on three occasions the spacecraft changes its motion abruptly with no change in the tilt of the vertical axis of the ship. If it was in fact tethered, one would expect the vertical axis to tilt as the tether point above was moved. In another measurement it was found that the tilt angle of the vertical axis in one oscillation sequence was sufficient that the axis crossed within the frame and would have put the tether point within the picture. No tether point source was revealed, in one of the final oscillation sequences the object appeared to pass directly over the top of the tree, and it is clearly seen that the tree was swept over in the direction of the spacecraft, or appeared to follow the spacecraft as it passed. Clearly no model could have produced this effect. When we revisited the scene we found that the tree had died and was cut down."


When i saw that movie clip with the tree...About 2 years ago - i saw it....And asked in the billy meier forum.. I got no reply.
And now you have seen it too...good.

Some things seems to work slow...for people..

The thing i never ever understood about the meier...Is the models of spacecraft's...
This is a long story....
I later read that meier used to build craft for he's son... On a birthday.. Wich made sense...
What i came up with in the meier story...is that something went wrong...!!!

Cause i see the first images... looks very real... But in the later photos.. It just cracked.... I saw models of ships... And a photo with toy cars in it...

The story was long... And i think it might have been true once...in the begining..But later it just got out of hand...

that is so crazy. And i still believe people can go crazy on the UFO topic...I really do..

There is someting wrong in the meier case... And it's dangerous.

The tree top ufo - seems real...But all the rest are out of bounce...
hehe and that is why i don't join any conversations around the Meiers - cause noone can tell me why. So i dont care. really.. LOL*
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