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NEWS: California Atheist Sues Over "In God We Trust"

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posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 09:49 PM
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That dude whose making such a big deal off of this is just another man lost in this world who apparently has too much spare time. When the people who put "Under God" and "In God We Trust" on the plegde and money, I doubt that they were refering to any god other than the Christian God. If you know religian, you'd know that the god worshipped by Christians, Jews, and Muslins is all the same. The teachings are similar too. Take my word, if our forfathers knew that this is what our country would turn into, I think that they'd be both crying and they would have "carefully explained" to the "ignorant" people of this country what every word, sentence, and phrase means on all laws and things such as the money, pledge, etc.

As for saying that this guy is asking to get shot, I sort of agree. Ya know, in the good old days of the monarchy, mmmmm, how should I word this? "The king would have his head!"

[edit on 1111/18/0505 by Acekwak]




posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 10:30 PM
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I just want to ask those who keep trying to say that the United States is a Christian or religious nation, why does it matter so much that your government endorses your religious beleif? Does is cheapen your beleifs if all mention of God were to be completely stricken from our government?

If we were to change it to "In Allah We Trust" would your opinion about theological references on our money change as well?



posted on Nov, 20 2005 @ 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by djohnsto77

The Federal Reserve Bank is a quasi-governmental agency, the notes are printed by the Bureau of Engraving and Printing which is a federal agency in the Department of the Treasury, and they are required by U.S. law to have "In God We Trust" on them.

Also, the motto appears, by law, on all our coins which are produced by the U.S. Mint, another fully governmental agency and not controlled by the Federal Reserve.

So I don't see how it could be dismissed on this basis.


It couldn't be DJ, it was just an idle amusing thought at the time. It sure would be funny though.



posted on Nov, 20 2005 @ 04:04 AM
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Originally posted by ShakyaHeir
If we were to change it to "In Allah We Trust" would your opinion about theological references on our money change as well?

No, but that would be against the constitution, as it would refer to the chosen god of a particular religion.

I am surprised (perhaps I missed it) that no one has yet brought up the Masonic connotations of the blanket phrase "God".

It can hardly be denied that a majority of the Founding Fathers were Masons. As such, they were required to believe in a single, all powerful God. It did not matter what specific religion they followed, so long as they followed one and it had only one God.

There is no constitutional ban on God in government. There is, however, a constitutional ban on the FEDERAL government passing laws respecting a religion.

Basically, they cannot establish a national religion, nor can they make you practice any religion or persecute you for the practice of your religion. What the congress can do is include the term God in anything they want to, so long as you are free to worship as you please.

I know many of you think we have this thing you call a "separation of church and state" but this thing does not exist in the US, nor has it ever, nor should it.


[edit on 20-11-2005 by cavscout]



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