Originally posted by Deep_Blue
Originally posted by simtek 22
But who is to set the boundaries on what is acceptable, you, me, John Kerry, George Bush? The whole point of free speech is then defeated. This is
what these islamic fanactics want. You can say whatever bad things about Christianity, Judaism, Hundusism, etc....but you can't say anything about
islam. Basically, they want you to shut your pie hole unless it's about someone else, or in their favor.
first you cannot say any criticism about Judaism and Israel , for example in the western world you cannot deny the right of Israel to exist nor you
can say that the Jewish temple never existed. and both of these things are directly related to Judaism religion.
The boundaries from my point of view are:
1) Fairness & Equality :
you have to treat all religions equally , either you prohibit offending all religions or you allow offending them all equally.
Originally posted by Deep_Blue
Israel Shamir's Publisher Jailed And Fined In France
On Wednesday, the court in Nanterre sentenced the publiser of "Al Qalam" books to three months in prison and $10,000 euro fine for publishing an
"anti Semitic" book by Israel Shamir entitled "The Other Face of Israel." He also prohibited the sale of this book.
The court convicted Abdelila Cherifi Alaoui, of "inciting discrimination and encouraging hate and violence" against another religion.
In addition to the jail term and fine, Al Qalam must pay 12,000 euros damages and 1,500 euros in legal costs to the "International League Against
Racism and Anti Semitism."
Finally, the publisher has 30 days to withdraw copies from stores with a penalty for 100 euros for every book remaining after the 30 days.
The Court was motivated by the fact that Shamir always refers to the "Jews" and presents them as dominating the world, as well as being engaged in
fomenting a "thrid world war."
www.rense.com...
The writer is christian:
The author who is a Jew who converted to Christianity is accused of being in the mainstream of the anti-Semitic tradition, especially by referring to
the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" as a (genuine) "political statement."
www.rense.com...
freespeach huh?
nobody special right 
[edit on 1-2-2006 by Deep_Blue]
[edit on 1-2-2006 by Deep_Blue]
2) Respect to other parties :
I believe that under freespeech it is necessary to respect others' race, religion, sex. To avoid any racist , anti-religion or sexist talk that could
spread hatred between different parties.
Do these things sound familiar? don’t you have rules in your countries similar to these?
Ahhh I see... it's okey to make fun and cartoons of Osama bin Laden, who are an inspiration to many muslims, but not of Muhammed!! Actually what you
are saying above leaves us in a position to NEVER say anything about anyone, because no matter what you say it will hurt or offend someone else. Will
you please tell me what the differnce is? (And dont come with the same bull that Muhammed is a peaceful prophet and Osama is a bad man)
And another thing, many people in the west find it very unacceptable that u marry your dauthers away at the age of 10, but you dont see us rage and
fury against you, becasue it happens in YOUR counrty. Your women are NOT allowed to vote for goverment, we still dont care, you stone your women
because they had a little too much "fun", still we main annonomous. This is 3 very violating things in the western world, still you dont see us
boycotting you!!! Then We print 12 cartoons of Muhammed and you stand up and talk about RESPECT????!!! You are all hypocrits of the limits!
The last 10 years scandinavia have had a series of so called "honor killing". Muslim teenagers falling in love with a non-muslim guy, she's either
killed or pushed away by her family becasue she's sameful and unpure!! And still you want to preach about RESPECT!! These teenagers grew up in a
country where it is ALLOWED to follow your feelings, to fall in love, to choose your companian thru life, still the family of the victim says in court
"... but she didn't fell in love with the man we pick out for her???!!!" AGAIN you want us to respect your religion!!!! Respect is something you
EARN, NOT SOMETING YOU CAN DEMAND!! Dont you see why people like to pick on you guys?? Becasue whenever there is the smallest bump your way you cry
like babies and talk about respect!
If you so strongly belive that Allah is up there somewhere then why dont you leave the jugdement to him??? Have you ever considered that Allah may not
be so harsh on non-belivers and that Muhammed doesn't mind that we print cartoons of him?? Who the hell are you to speak on his behalf, huh?? How can
you tell what his thoughts are right now?? Ever crossed your mind that Allah and muhammed are sitting together right now, drinking beer and eating
popcorn and Muhammed are saying:" DAMN those cartoons makes me laugh, that doesn't look like me at all, but i haven't had so much fun since
president Clinton stood up and said:" I never had sexual relation with that woman", just a damn shame all my followers have to spoil all the fun"
tell me if you can be the jugde of that!!
Some people even claim they have the proof of Jesus having a child with mary magdaleny, well ok, you hear a roar and protest now and then, BUT YOU
DONT hear deathtreats and declaration of war against another countries, because many christians have accepted the possiblity it might be true... why
cant you just do the same.
Would you be offended if someone could prove that Muhammed was gay or had a child outside of marrige? would that really break your little world? Give
it a rest, the man died 1000 of years ago.
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I swear by god that I
don’t hate anyone in the world more than the Terrorist that Killed my relative, What he was thinking of? did he thought that he is going to heaven ,
I am sure he is burning in hell now. 
