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Denmark On Muhammeds Naughty List

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posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 01:00 AM
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Who is Abu Laban?

He openly praised Osama Bin Laden after 911 and he.... well see for yourself...


Danish Imam Who Faked Cartoons, Linked to Terror, Cheered 9-11


Imam Ahmad Abu Laban, the man behind this whole Danish cartoon controversy, not only faked obscene cartoons on his trip to the Middle East, but also:

* Entertained the "Blind Sheikh" behind the first World Trade Center attacks
* Praised Osama Bin Laden after 9-11 Attacks
* Preached he "Shed no tears" after 9-11 Attacks
* Accused of giving Political support to Osama bin Laden's network
* Accused of giving Financial support to Osama bin Laden's network
* Joined with 225 Islamic Radicals to form Global Jihadist Group in 2003
* Said that Theo van Gogh - "Had it coming!"
* Called on his flock to Give Their Lives to Global Jihad for Palestinians
* Met with Sheikh Qaradawi in Saudi Arabia who has legalized the murder of American soldiers in Iraq

Read the full article here... Each point is explained in more debth and there are more details.




posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 07:01 AM
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That may be true but Denmark is not an Islamic country.

Its not a question of Denmark being an islamic country or not.

We are now in the era of globalisation

The fact is that it has offended the religious sentiments of over 1 billion muslims over the globe and its persistance over its stance of 'freedom of expression' just shows its arrrogance.
wot is this freedom which doesnt have any moral responsibility attached to it.

Other religions may not have restrictions regarding to depiction of their prophets n holymen.
but wot if somethin similar is done with other faiths which touches a nerve, but is shrugged off as "freedom of expression",
no righteous person will ever accept that.
(rmbr the protests by the sikhs in britain over a play which shows a rape in a gurudwara??)



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 07:04 AM
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Originally posted by AceOfBase

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
i just want to say that it's a specific thing in islam to not depict the prophet or god...



That may be true but Denmark is not an Islamic country.


Its not a question of Denmark being an islamic country or not.

We are now in the era of globalisation

The fact is that it has offended the religious sentiments of over 1 billion muslims over the globe and its persistance over its stance of 'freedom of expression' just shows its arrrogance.
wot is this freedom which doesnt have any moral responsibility attached to it.

Other religions may not have restrictions regarding to depiction of their prophets n holymen.
but wot if somethin similar is done with other faiths which touches a nerve, but is shrugged off as "freedom of expression",
no righteous person will ever accept that.
(rmbr the protests by the sikhs in britain over a play which shows a rape in a gurudwara??)



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 07:06 AM
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A danish brewery in southern part of Israel was under attack, according to Jerusalem Post.

Eight Kassam-missiles were aimed at an industrial area south of Azhkelon.
One missile hit the brewery, but remain calm folks! The production of beer has not been delayed!

Islamic Jihad, responsible of this attack stated that they used the 'mk.2'-version of the Kassams, the al-Qud.
The al-Qud has improved range, but has lesser accuracy than thrown firecrackers. Thankfully, no casualties were inflicted.


Related link:
Ekstrabladet (danish)
Jerusalem Post (english)



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 01:55 PM
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posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 02:26 PM
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Freedom of expression is king in the Western world. So, Islam should try and understand this. The free peoples of Denmark have every right to print or write whatever they want.

It does not matter how many people are offened. Period.

If we live in a global world then it is ISLAM that should learn how to respect others rights.



-- Boat



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 03:08 PM
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I do not think the 12 cartoons published in Denmark's Jyllands-Posten have been that offensive.

There's a world of difference between these 12 cartoons and an image of the prophet being raped by a dog, showing him with a pig's face, or labelled a paedophile (= 3 of the FAKE cartoons)

The Danish Imam Abu Laden and his political and religious fellow-travellers knew that when they added the FAKE cartoons into their booklet, bringing them to the attention of

  • ambassadors from Muslim countries, ranging from Egypt and Iran to Bosnia and Pakistan and
  • the secretary of the Arab League, Amr Moussa
  • the Grand Imam of Cairo's al-Azhar University Sheikh Mohammad Sayyed Tantawi
  • the Egyptian Grand Mufti, Ali Gomaa;
  • the Lebanese Grand Mufti, Muhammed Rashid Kabbani
  • and the leading Shi'ite cleric Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadallah.
  • clerics in Saudi Arabia
  • the Organisation of the Islamic Conference - attended by the Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and
  • Al Manar (TV channel owned and run by the terrorist organisation Hezbollah)

    and not telling them that the additional cartoons have never been published by any newspaper.

    Of course, the people in Middle East did not see those "original cartoons" and since even in the West the media is afraid of printing them, most people think that really the 12 cartoons printed in a Danish media is the cause of voilent rage.



  • posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 04:29 PM
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    Originally posted by Ulvetann

    Missile-attack on Carlsberg!


    Oh no, not Carlsberg! The holiest of the holy! Our beer! They have gone too far this time!


    ***

    I saw some posters from Pakistan where they mock the "President" of Denmark. If somebody tell them that Denmark is actually a monarchy (There is no President in Denmark), they might start mocking the Danish "King" instead...



    posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 06:59 PM
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    On another forum a member posted something Winston Churchill wrote back in 1899 and it's just as true today as it was back then.



    winstonchurchill.org

    "How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
    --snip--



    posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 07:21 PM
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    The words 'Violent man' when translated in the old testiment in hebrew is in fact called pronounced 'HAMAZ.' Maybe some things never change and the Bibele says that sons of Ismael (the Arabs) will be enemies of the Jews brother against brother and is so today. Its not racism its history repeating it self.

    But one thing I have noticed is after all this with the riots and the burning of embassies and western food stores priests being targeted in the Middle east. Plus cartoons of the holocost in Iran does Denmark need to say sorry? Does the West need to say sorry? I think they abused their freedoms enough, as the country of Demark can not hold accountable of a newspaper or the muslims for their riots then we too should not say sorry. Demark said sorry but that is not enough and Europe has no right to either they have done enough protests and damage why even debate it further?

    As far as I'm concerned carry on doing new ones becasue obviously the middle east media is doing enough to inflame their own people by this for repeating it for them to know about it.



    posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 07:42 PM
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    Originally posted by The time lord
    The words 'Violent man' when translated in the old testiment in hebrew is in fact called pronounced 'HAMAZ.'


    huh?

    Probably you mean the hebrew word Chametz (= "leaven" - any food that's made of grain and water that have been allowed to ferment and "rise."

    Hamas is an acronym that stands for Harakat al-muqāwama al-islāmiyya (engl: "Islamic Resistance Movement")


    Originally posted by The time lord

    Maybe some things never change and the Bibele says that sons of Ismael (the Arabs) will be enemies of the Jews


    I do not know where you could have read this in the Tora - but this is absolute offline in this thread!



    posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 09:14 PM
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    The Torah clearly states that the alliance of nations which will strike Israel in the end of times is Muslim. Well, not really, but they are Muslim lands which are the same.



    posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 11:29 PM
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    A man has been beaten to death over an argument about the mohammed cartoons.



    PTI

    Dubai, Feb 15 (PTI) An Indian sailor was allegedly beaten to death by his colleagues on board a Norwegian oil tanker in the international waters off the coast of Fujairah in the UAE following an argument over the cartoon row.
    A fight ensued among the seamen after an argument over the cartoon issue, causing the death of one sailor, a media report said.

    Official sources confirmed the death of 31-year-old Sudheer Nonia Jagannathan, hailing from Mumbai, but refused to comment on the issue.


    These people are like rabid dogs and need to be put down.
    I can hardly beleive this crap over some damn cartoons.



    posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 11:44 PM
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    What's the body count- 30? 50?



    posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 03:51 AM
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    Originally posted by Nakash
    The Torah clearly states that the alliance of nations which will strike Israel in the end of times is Muslim. Well, not really, but they are Muslim lands which are the same.


    Not that I am doubting you or anything, but could you please give a specific reference if this is correct? A cross reference to the O.T. would be a great help for us Christian types, too. I don't think I have ever read anything that CLEARLY states that, as I don't recall the O.T. defining the nations as being Islamic at that time. Could this be a modern-day assumption?
    I am not trying to nit-pick, just looking for facts, is all.



    posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 07:19 AM
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    About 10.000 were on demonstration today in Karachi, Pakistan.
    Large armed forces from military and police was implemented to keep control of the demonstrators. The usual 'islamic etiquette' was followed, by shouting Allahu Ackbar and burning flags (danish ones).

    There has not been any reports of violence, as there was yesterday, when they torched off a Telenor-store (Norwegian phonecompany) in Peshawar. Three people was killed, amongst them, an eight year old kid!



    Related link
    VG (norwegian)
    VG (norwegian)

    [edit on 16-2-2006 by Ulvetann]



    posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 08:27 AM
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    The israeli newspaper Haaretz.com, wrote on wednesday, about
    fans of the arabic-israeli football-club Bnei Sakhnin, and their intentions of burning danish flags infront of an upcoming football match between Israel and Denmark. Which is going to be played tomorrow, friday.


    "We respect our Christian brothers with whom we live in full coexistence in soccer and in all walks of life, and nobody would dare hurt their feelings," Azazme said (ed. Sakhnin supporter Yussef Azazme). "The act is aimed specifically at the Danes for insulting the honor of the Muslim religion."



    Azazme said he has tried to talk with club officials to try and receive their blessing for the move, but as yet has not received a response. "While I understand that fans have been offended by the cartoons, I would prefer that religious and political disputes be kept out of soccer," the chairman of the club's board, Ahmed Amar, said yesterday.



    In any event, Azazme is fully aware that burning the flag at a soccer match will get far more attention than doing so on the town's streets. "Soccer has become a media stage, and anything that takes place during a match quickly comes to the attention of the media. We could do it on the streets, but then no one will talk about it."


    This mind-numb'ed man, Azazme has apparently already collected and spent money on a canvas that he plans to have made into a 30-by-3-meter Danish flag, that will go up in smoke.

    Well, imho, they should douse themselves in gasolin too, before they ignite their matches. -Don't hate the players, hate the game.

    Related link:
    BT (danish)
    Hareetz (english)




    [edit on 16-2-2006 by Ulvetann]



    posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 09:57 AM
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    Of course, the Galilee Regional Police said on Monday that they will not allow fans of the B'nei Sakhnin soccer team burn Danish flags during the match, within the stadium or in its surrounding area. So Yussef Azazme, the Sakhnin fan behind the initiative, said he plan to swap the 30 meter flag he intended to burn for three smaller flags so that he will be able to get them in. (more)



    posted on Feb, 17 2006 @ 11:52 AM
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    Here Tom:

    www.biblicalstudies.com...

    Note also how Russia is probably not included in this alliance (though parts of the Soviet Union almost assuredly are).



    posted on Feb, 17 2006 @ 02:26 PM
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    The "Meshech" in that article is interesting, they id it with "Mushki" which is Phyrgia. However I can't help but wonder if its more like c.f. 'meshwesh', which is how I've seen the mycenean greeks represented as in the past.



    Precisely why Turkey (Anatolia, Asia Minor) is set forth in Ezekiel's prophecy under four names (Meshech, Tubal, Gomer and Togarmah) cannot be determined.


    I should think its rather obvious why. It wasn't known as Turkey at the time of the writing and the original author was talking about some of the more powerful and dangerous tribes of his time, not our time. Turkey isn't quadruply important today. I mean, it seems rather honest and straighforward to read it as him talking about what would be the most likely way that the 'world' would end in his times, with these uber-powerful and ravenous super-powers allying into one monster-force against his nation and utterly destroying it.

    Also, the author of the webpage uses similar reasoning to exclude Russia here:

    To Ezekiel the "farthest north" was Asia Minor (from there you jump off the edge!). To extend Ezekiel's frame of reference any further, without exegetical warrant, cannot be right.

    So why, without warrant, make it into modern turkey?



    Note also the nations who are (surprisingly!) absent: Egypt and Syria. Why? The only plausible answer is that they both have somehow been relegated to an inferior position militarily. This fits nicely into Daniel chapter 11 with both the King of the North (Syria) and the King of the South (Egypt) being destroyed by Antichrist.

    Hm. Interesting.



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