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reply posted on 27-1-2006 @ 08:39 AM by Ulvetann
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The geezers in Saudi-Arabia has become so offended, that they have called home their ambassador in Denmark!
I can't hide my sarcastic laughter.
And now, the 'Mosaisk trossamfund' (I am not sure how to translate it, without risking offending someone) (pun intended), are actaully stunned by
the great response from the Saudi's. The danish muslims didn't believe it would go that far, and are now stating that they didn't mean for any
boycotts of food to happen.
I am laughing so hard, I am getting ticks, and pee my panties...
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reply posted on 27-1-2006 @ 09:38 AM by arabian_stallion
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people over here r seeing this in the totally wrong way.
muslims are not pissed for the sake of meddling with western affairs. the anger comes from the ignorance of the cartoonist. by showing the prophet
muhammed peace be upon him as a suicide bomber you also send a message to every1 reading the newspaper telling them that islam is a terrorist religion
which by the way (4 those of u whove been watching the propaganda filled media for a bit too long) its not.
and wen that other guy talks abt how many muslim newspapers draw pictures of bush n stuff......come on were do u go off comparing a prophet who has
dedicated his life to God and his message of peace and a ruthless politician who has murdered numerous innoncent people.
i mean if u have drawn osama bin laden in that position nobody wouldve minded because thats the truth really but this is the prophet Muhammed peace be
upon him whos message did not include bombing innoncent people.
and by the way its not just a cartoon, its a message to all the danish people saying muslims are evil and the message of islam is evil. freedom of
speech was created to reveal the truth and this is not the truth
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reply posted on 27-1-2006 @ 09:58 AM by Ulvetann
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Originally posted by arabian_stallion
and by the way its not just a cartoon, its a message to all the danish people saying muslims are evil and the message of islam is evil.
No. It IS just cartoons. when 'reading' the cartoons, it implies that people understand, that the evil is not the religion itself, but its zealous
fundamentalist followers. Of course many people, regrettfully, will misunderstand as humans tend to do. -All the time, over and over again.
I call that 'no sense of humour'.
As far as I can recall, No christian countries has yet called back their ambassadors, because a islamic country (-some people in them!) do mockery of
christianity.
I totally see your opinion in this, but I say again, it is the total zelousness that creates bad entities. This goes for all religion, and all
cultures and all countries. We other ones (non-zealots), should be able to look the other way, and continue our daily chores, without getting steamed
up. -OVER CARTOONS!
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reply posted on 29-1-2006 @ 03:52 AM by iori_komei
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what do you think christians would say if the new york times published an entire paper of printed ways to "take the lord's name in vain" and
straight up offensive blasphemy against their religion?
just pages of creative expletives incorporating jesus and god.
now, to muslims, what they did in denmark is 13 times worse. the entire point of not depicting the prophet in islam was to keep people from viewing
him as a god, which (in their opinion) had happened to jesus.
You can't really say that would be the same as the situation at hand, firstly Denmark, as said before, is not an Islamic country, the majority of the
population is not Islamic. Therefore it's not like your offending a large part of the population.
If you were ging to make a situation that would be the same, it would be like India creating "blasphemous" comics about Jesus or "God" or
Christianity, and having America getting pissy about it.
The cartoonist has every right to do what he did, and I support him.
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reply posted on 29-1-2006 @ 04:22 AM by Hellmutt
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What made this situation worse was that a group of muslims in Denmark ("Al Qaeda in Denmark" or something... ) went down to the Middle East and fed
them a bunch of lies. They told them that Jyllands-Posten was owned by the danish government, that there is an official agenda in Denmark to offend
muslims in general and also that there were plans in Denmark to rewrite the Koran. In order to get the diplomatic connections re-esablished with
muslim countries and to call off the muslim boycot of Denmark, Jyllands-Posten yesterday printed an open letter
( in arabic and danish) to muslims, where they say they´re very sorry about all this mess
and that they really didn´t mean to offend anyone. Btw, the homepage of Jyllands-Posten just went dead so I can´t find
the danish translation of the letter for you. An english translation would be better anyway...
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reply posted on 29-1-2006 @ 09:19 AM by Hellmutt
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Some danish imams now admit to have "exaggerated" namelists by adding names who doesn´t excist, making it appear like 200,000 people signed their
names instead of 15,000. Names of people who protest the drawings and want Denmark to "surrender". The boycott of Danish goods now spreads to other
countries. Kuwait is boycotting Denmark now as well
Protests in Baghdad against the drawings of Muhammed. Photo: AP/Karim Kadim
And here's the link to the danish version of the "so sorry" open letter to the people of
Saudi Arabia.
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reply posted on 29-1-2006 @ 11:45 AM by Ulvetann
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I hope Imam Abu Laban and his other conspirators within the 'mosaisk trossamfund' spread these news to their respective countries. -that were on
their 'tour'-map, where they made these lies of those '200.000 angry islamists'!
Imam Ahmad Abu Laban, Photo: DR
1 of supposedly 200.000 angry danish islamists, Archivephoto
These LIES, these imams has been spreading has snowballed even more! Now LIBYA has called home their ambassador too!
Dansk Folkeparti seem to have glorious days! The party has even asked the muslim society, AND their fellow party members to 'chill out' a bit, so
things can get controllable (-at least to get some oversight!) again.
It is unbelievable, because this 'out-of-proportions' situation is really more flammable than the real US vs. middle-east situation. Here we have
some few persons in the local society, flaring up, making a issue out of a cartoon, to get some more attention, even telling some lies to build the
reasonning of the issue, resulting in several countries recalling ambassadors, demonstrations and flag-burning and boycotting of food-stuffs.
What our new countrymen/women are doing are so opposite of integration, I would almost blatantly start to call it internation, -of themselves. They
paint themselves in the colours of racism!
U N B E L I E V A B L E !    and
I am surely starting to keep an eye out on any new members in my pistol-union. They aren't getting any permission to get any gun from me, oh, no. I
am going stocking up on ammunition now. I thought Moses Hanses were going to put Nørrebro on fire with his speeches earlier in january. That was,
btw, his "Jesus lives and Muhammed is dead"-speech.
Last time he got a lot of attention was when he bore a wooden cross on his back through Copenhagens "little Persia", or "Persia Town" (Nørrebro
aka. Nørrebronx).
Moses Hansen, Photo: DR
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reply posted on 29-1-2006 @ 11:56 AM by AceOfBase
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Maybe the muslims will get so angry at Denmark that they'll actually leave.
Nah, that's just wishful thinking.
They really do like to overreact though.
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reply posted on 29-1-2006 @ 11:57 AM by WolfofWar
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Take THAT Denmark
Like a little baby crying...just...a little baby with guns, nukes, missles, and suicide bombers.
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reply posted on 30-1-2006 @ 03:07 AM by Hellmutt
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Oh no, Ulvetann. Not the embassador of Libya as well  ? What can the Danes possibly
do to make him come back  ? I wonder if Iran will join this crusade against Denmark as well...
Armed Palestinians stormed an EU office in Gaza because of the Muhammed drawings. They
have threatened to harm any Norwegians, Danes or Swedes and urged them all to leave Palestine right now. In fact they are evacuating Scandinavian
people from there as we speak. On the west bank they are burning danish flags. Why do they want to harm the Swedes as well? Maybe because they look so
much like Danes or Norwegians (=rascism) or maybe because they are located so close to Norway where a Christian newspaper reprinted those terrible
terrible drawings which were posted by Jyllands-Posten in Denmark in the first place? I don´t know why they target Sweden, but I haven´t heard about
any "reprinting of evil drawings" in Sweden. You know what? This will give a boost to the nazi movements in Sweden (Norway and Denmark too for that
matter). What´s the matter with those people? Can´t they see how wrong this is? I would say burning flags are a bigger offense, but I guess that´s
just me  . But whatever is the "bigger offense", The Danish people or the Danish State has no responsibillity for these drawings! Stop picking on
the Swedes, Norwegians and Danes, call a lawyer and sue Jyllands-Posten instead. Not all this %¤/#&%!
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reply posted on 30-1-2006 @ 07:26 AM by Ulvetann
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I agree, Hellmutt! Why the swedes?
My guess is, provokely saying, that they don't know enough to realize that Sweden is NOT a city in Denmark, as well as Norway is NOT the capitol of
Sweden! -Or any other way around.
If those who live by medieval standards want to continue their medieval life, we can surely get medieval on their heinies!
If they don't like it over here in a PEACEFUL scandinavian country, WHY don't they go back where they were born? (This rant is NOT aimed for those
refugees/immigrants that really just want to live peacefully, in cold countries!)
All this talk about Denmark being more racist than other countries, that is imho a lot of hogwash! I am sure there isn't one place on this globe
that is 'free of racism'. Least of all in the middle-east!
Wow, just found out that Clinton too, distances himselfs from the cartoons! He calls them shameful.
Related link:
BT (danish]
Danish Red Cross evacuates two from Gaza, and one person from Yemen.
Related link:
BT (danish)
And as a result of several cyberattacks against danish webservers, a chain-mail has circulated around, telling people to hack sites as Al-Jazeera,
Arab News og Gulf News.
Related link:
BT (danish)
Unbelievable, I am not able to edit my post fast enough, before there are more news!
Now they are burning norwegian flags too. What is up with these people? *Shaking head*
Related link:
VG (norwegian)
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reply posted on 30-1-2006 @ 09:16 AM by AceOfBase
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Now they're hacking and using DOS attacks against the website of the newspaper who originally published the drawings.
Denmark subject of cyber-attacks
In spite of all of the pressure Jyllands-Posten has still not given in as far as I'm aware.
EDIT: The pople of Denmark are running counter attacks on Arab media sites such as Al jazeera.
Danish counter-attacks
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reply posted on 30-1-2006 @ 09:24 AM by AceOfBase
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I guess it'll get even more intense now.
Here are some pages from the book about Mohammed that stated the whole issue with the cartoons:
exilen.org
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reply posted on 30-1-2006 @ 09:38 AM by Ulvetann
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AceofBase, isn't that intended to be a childrensbook too?
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reply posted on 30-1-2006 @ 10:03 AM by AceOfBase
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Originally posted by Ulvetann
AceofBase, isn't that intended to be a childrensbook too?
I think so and the fact that it's illustrated makes it seem that way.
Run a check on the name of the author, Kaare Bluitgen, and see what you can find in the Danish media.
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reply posted on 30-1-2006 @ 10:20 AM by djohnsto77
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Fight the Islamic scourge and support Denmark by buying and eating tasty Danish pork products:
external image
Yummy!
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reply posted on 30-1-2006 @ 08:42 PM by Guenhwyvar
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reply posted on 30-1-2006 @ 09:36 PM by Hellmutt
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That´s interesting. Here´s the conspiracy for you. Muslims don´t want to see the pictures, so they don´t know what they really look like. Somebody
with influence could tell them just about anything. Imams were showing fake pictures on BBC World! Pictures of Muhammed which were not made or
published by Jyllands-Posten, but they claimed these were the drawings in question! I wonder who made those pictures. Seems like somebody wants
to provoke a stronger reaction against Denmark. They claimed there was a picture of Muhammed with a pig nose and with pig ears. None of these 12
pictures are even close to anything like that. Here is an article about the fake pictures which were shown on BBC (in danish unfortunately) :
Imam viste falske billeder
More lies, and add to that: 1. The lies about Jyllands-Posten being owned and run by the Danish government. 2. The lies about the Danish government
rewriting a new sensored version of the Koran. 3. The lies about the Danish government soon about to release a heavy anti-islam propaganda movie. They
should say they´re sorry for burning Norwegian and Danish flags! Didn´t they know that these lies were going to be exposed sooner or later? Maybe
they were hoping for "a total war" so that there would be no one left to complain afterwards? Wake up, someone is lying to you! Someone who has an
evil agenda and wants to make war. And now there are fanatics who are urging attacks (yup, suicide bombings) against Danish and Norwegian targets
anywhere in the world (I´m not kidding)! Soon these liars could get blood on their hands. Once that happens all Hell will break loose and
there will be no turning back...
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reply posted on 30-1-2006 @ 09:41 PM by Nakash
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Denmark is not a muslim country. It has never been, and never will be. Denmark has the RIGHT to publish ***whatsoever*** it wants and not be bound by
some Kook's beliefs (no matter the creed-though I dearly hope things such as "Vampire hunter Jesus" aren't filmed anymore, I have no right to
dictate somebody else's beliefs). Christians are oppressed daily in the Arab world- this is HYPOCRISY.
To any Islamofascist reading this board:
Europe will NEVER convert to Islam. Forget it, it will NEVER happen, no matter how much you intimidate, no matter how many people have to be deported
for torching property in France, forget it. I dearly hope the Danes don't take the pc way out and apologise. That would send the wrong message.
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