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Originally posted by bsbray11
I wouldn't exactly call that extreme.
Originally posted by LeftBehind
This same all powerful force managed to not plant WMD's in Iraq to prove their story. I don't give them the credit you do, and it is more naive to assume the government is all-powerful, they can't even do the census right.
CIA counter-proliferation network prevented a WMD "salting" operation by Bush White House in Iraq.
November 11, 2005 -- New aspect of Valerie Plame/Brewster Jennings exposure revealed. According to U.S. intelligence sources, the White House exposure of Valerie Plame and her Brewster Jennings & Associates was intended to retaliate against the CIA's work in limiting the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.
WMR has reported in the past on this aspect of the scandal. In addition to identifying the involvement of individuals in the White House who were close to key players in nuclear proliferation, the CIA Counter-Proliferation Division prevented the shipment of binary VX nerve gas from Turkey into Iraq in November 2002.
The Brewster Jennings network in Turkey was able to intercept this shipment which was intended to be hidden in Iraq and later used as evidence that Saddam Hussein was in possession of weapons of mass destruction. U.S. intelligence sources revealed that this was a major reason the Bush White House targeted Plame and her network.
Originally posted by LeftBehind
WTC7 is the building entirely covered with smoke. How can you say that the entire building burning is not extreme damage?
I like that you brought origins into this discussion. It just show that, similar to creation "evidence", your argument relies entirely on debunking the official story. Even if the evidence was against a plane+fire+gravity-driven-collapse, it would not prove demolition.
It would be nice if for once someone posted proof of how they wired the buildings with miles of primer cord with no one noticing, instead of attacking the NIST report.
Claiming that the US gov can accomplish anything is much different than proving so.
This same all powerful force managed to not plant WMD's in Iraq to prove their story.
I don't give them the credit you do, and it is more naive to assume the government is all-powerful
This photo was taken sometime in the afternoon of September 11, before Building 7 collapsed. Building 7 is the skyscraper in the upper right of the photograph. The partially crushed and burned-out remains of Building 4 are in the middle of the photograph and Building 5 is the dark object to the right. The fact that fires are no longer visible in these buildings suggests it is the mid- to late afternoon.
The southwest facade and southeast-facing wall of Building 7 are visible but there are no signs of fire.
911eyewitness.com... (turn your volume up)
One angle. From across the river. The whole event caught in real time.
I HEARD THE BOMBS.
There are 9 detonations between 9:55 and 9:58 heard FROM ACROSS THE RIVER on his video before the South Tower collapse.
There is a series of explosions about 10 second before the North Tower collapse.
He catches the actual smoke plume that rises from the base of the towers. Not the one mistakenly shown in plane site, which is actually from the collapse of the South Tower. There is no doubt about it
Originally posted by 8bitagent
People need to wonder aloud what was in WTC7, and the physics/science to the fall.
Building 7 played host to then Mayor Rudy Giuliani's Office of Emergency Management command center, with the 23rd floor built in 1998 as a "bunker" with bullet and bomb-resistant windows, its own water and air supply, the ability to withstand 160mph winds, and a full commanding view of the entire WTC complex. Interestingly, on 9/11 Giuliani didn't bother to put the center to use (even though that's what it was built for) and decided to instead set up a makeshift command center down the street. Seven also served as the command center for the security of the entire WTC complex, which was headed by the President's brother, Marvin Bush, whose contract ended "coincidentally" on 9/11. WTC7's other tentants included the IRS, CIA, Secret Service, FBI, Department of Defense, and the SEC. It has been reported that several banks involved in sending money to the 9/11 hijackers had their offices there, and important files pertaining to the Enron investigation were stored there as well.
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Originally posted by bsbray11
I'd like to see what type of 110-floor building you are basing this on, the types of explosives you are assuming were used, and what methods you are assuming were used. And then I'd like to see how assumptions are scientific.
The Con Edison operators arriving at the scene at WTC 7 wanted to know if they should cut off the power at the WTC 7 power station. It was decided to leave the power on ... The Con Edison personnel also indicated that fuel tanks were located in the lower level of WTC 7. However, they could not determine if the fuel tanks were involved with the fires burning in the building.
FDNY personnel reported that they did not see any indication of burning liquid fuels before the building collapsed. ...
The BYU physics professor who believes the WTC collapsed from a controlled demolition isn't alone in the academic community, as a group of more than 60 colleagues from two universities also agreed with Professor Steven E. Jones' conclusions.
Jones told the Arctic Beacon Saturday in a telephone conversation from Provo, Utah, he first presented his explosive conclusions at Brigham Young University (BYU) on September 22, to 60 people from the BYU and Utah Valley State College faculties, including professors of Engineering, Electrical Engineering, Geology, Mathematics and Psychology.
"In fact, after I researched how Building 7 fell, I am certain there existed pre-positioned explosives to bring down the three buildings."
Originally posted by Zamboni
And Sauron's opinion would be a kin to taking the advice of the local village idiot....
Read the Prof's paper before making judgement.