Poll: Calling all Canucks, who are going to vote for.

As we know we're going to the polls soon. Personally I think there's going to be little change from what we have now. Let's test the waters. 2 easy questions:

1-Which party are you going to vote for?

2-Which part of the country do you live in?

You don't need to explain why you're voting a certain way, if you wish to, no problem.

OK, I will be voting late, as late as possible, I want to see what's going on back East. If the Liberals look strong, I'll vote my choice, NDP. If the Torries look strong, I'm voting Liberal. I'll give you the why. I don't trust Harper. Period. The SS and Gun Registry screwed Canadians out of 2 billion. A drop in the bucket compared to what the Mulroney gov't screwed us over for. You'll have to have Ghandi as a leader before I vote PC again. It's all about who'll screw you less.

I'm a Bluenoser living in Ontario.

Edit: to fix title. "who are" looks better than "who're". Even though we are talking politics.



[edit on 10-11-2005 by intrepid]

I honestly have no idea. All the choices looks crappy to me. The Greens seem destined to remain a joke of a party while the "Big Three" play politics with little regard for the average joe. The main reason why my generation doesn't vote is because we feel disenfranchised by all political movements currently. This seems like a vacuum that needs to be filled but filled by what? What will it take for it to be filled Proportional Representation? Frankely I don't care if Harper becomes the next Minority PM you saw how much Martin got done in his Minority reign If he gets into office we could see a united Left with the Liberals, Bloq and NDP all positioned against the West First mentality of the Cons.

Frankely I think I may sit this one out as a protest.

[edit on 10-11-2005 by sardion2000]

Originally posted by sardion2000
Frankely I think I may sit this one out as a protest.

[edit on 10-11-2005 by sardion2000]

That's the second time I've heard that in less than an hour. Not voting is not the way.

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by sardion2000
Frankely I think I may sit this one out as a protest.

[edit on 10-11-2005 by sardion2000]

That's the second time I've heard that in less than an hour. Not voting is not the way.

What IS the way then... vote for a Party whom I loath or don't really care about? (Liberals and NDP respectively) I'm growing very tired of the games the Feds have been playing no matter who is in charge they ALWAYS find a way to disappoint and piss me off. I'm focused more on Toronto politics these days anyway to even bother to keep up with Canadian or even Ontarian politics.

If Ottawa was struck by a Meteor I wouldn't notice for about a week. That about sums up my view at this time.

Also the things I want are things the Feds cannot or will not deliver and have passed the buck onto McGuinty. The only Party who supports more Governing power for Toronto are the NDP and I live in Laytons riding so me voting either way(lib or ndp) will most likely NOT make any difference whatsoever(the NDP will win) sure I can give the Greens my 1.25 $ worth (that is how much funding they get per vote) but why support what is essentially a joke of a party.

[edit on 10-11-2005 by sardion2000]

I live in the heart of Conservative country, Calgary, Alberta.
My vote doesn't count, but I will still be going to the polls and voting NDP like I did last time. Conservatives took every seat in Alberta last election and I'm sure they will do it again.

Intrepid your strategy of seeing how the Liberals Vs Conservatives pans out is exactly how I voted last election. I also agree, it's all about who'll screw you less. I don't like the Liberals but I'll vote for them if it will keep the conservatives from running the country.

Coming to the realization that the Conservatives are going to win in my riding, I have decided that I should just vote for who I want regardless of how well the Liberals or Conservatives are doing.

I too find it disheartening in this country that our political leader choices leave little to be desired. But I can tell you this never will I vote LIBERAL, as long as Mr.Dithers is in power, weak of chin, weak of heart, the only time our Prime Minister takes a stance is when he's afraid of losing votes,where was he back in the summer in Toronto with the gun crime escalating and the gang wars raging. Maybe for some the crime here isn't as bad as some other cities but what is the point of letting it get to that point, so some selfserving politician has an excuse to call for a crackdown when it's too bloody late. Typical. Our own Justice Minister Mr. Irwin Colter is now introducing tougher mandatory minimum sentences for certain serious gun crimes, this was said a couple of days ago, Tues.nov.8, i believe, although in September his stance was radically differeent as he stated [Canada's law's against gun crime were among the toughest on the books,and he wasn't in to a "quick fix solution"like longer mandatory sentencing. Hmmm.. wonder what changed his mind.The two tier health care is a joke ,NDP doesn't want it , well too bad it's already here and what is wrong with that, it seems to work everwhere else, does anyone really think if a relative of Jack Layton's needed a hip replacement and had to wait 18 months that if they could afford it that they wouldn't seek it elsewhere. You can bet they would, maybe they could use Paul Martin's Doctor I mean He does use private health care , but then again with all the money he doesn't pay in taxes for his shipping lines I suppose he can afford it. As far as the conservitives " Hidden Agenda" they must be pretty darn good at hiding it or maybe they are just so good because they don't really have one. If you want to blame Mulroney and past PC's go ahead I mean after all it was only what uh 12 or 13 years since they have been in power and I'm sure all our present problems are because of them. I would rather take my chances with a new government, that I only hope will not disappoint, than take them with and old government that surely will.

Uhuh The NDP and Liberals are the devil and the Conservatives are saints

NEWSFLASH! They ALL have hidden agenda's!

Two Tier healthcare is all great for hip replacements but what about Cancer therapy?

Is it ethical to let the rich buy their way to the top of the list just cuz they can afford it? And no We do not have private hospitols and HMO's so no we do not have Two Tiered healthcare it's what's called PPP(Public Private Partnership).

Inacting full rights to private healthcare would be a disaster to public waiting lists as more and more doctors and surgeons will flock to the higher paying private for-profit center. If someone in your family was undergoing cancer therapy you would be singing a different tune, mark my words.

As for Mulronies failures there are two biggies that cost Canadians BIG TIME and we are still paying both literally and figuratively so yeah alot of problems can be traced back to his reign.

GST & NAFTA

That's Bulronies Legacy

What will Harpers be if he ever gets a majority gov't? Cleaning up corruption? Ya right... Enacting Strong whistleblower legislation uhuh.

His legacy will probably be making much ado about nothing as always.

I may Despise the Libs and Distrust the NDP but I absolutely 100% hate the cut and slash Conservatives. That is why I primarily feel disenfranchised....

I know my father will be voting conservative even though he's wasn't a big fan of the former Ontario premier, I can't remember his name now damn it.

His girlfriend will be voting, most likely liberal, my grandma liberal,
my uncle john, conservative, my uncle chris conservative, not sure about the other uncles, oh phil will vote democrat.

My mom will vote liberal, my step dad conservative, and I will be voting liberal --maybe. I'd vote conservative but the way the ontario premier (harris) thats his name, ran things, he really cheesed me off. My main issue is lower taxes, Chretien promised before he got voted in he'd remove the gst that malroney created, and he never did. It's a cash cow for them.
I want to see shorter waiting lists when it comes to dire surgeries, like heart and back. Even allow doctor's to have their own clinics and buy their own equipment, but if a liberal gets in again they won't allow that because that would be taking business away from the quasi socialist health care system. So i'm kind of stuck.

I want to see shorter waiting lists when it comes to dire surgeries,like heart and back

Actually waiting lists have been getting shorter allthough not by much. There are many ways in which to shorten those lists without welcoming for-profit healthcare. One biggy would be to streamline the way in which we welcome foreign professionals as there are too many of them who are currently driving taxi's and delivering pizza's.(and which English is not an issue either)

Canada is in Surplus right now as we are a resource giant, I want to see that surplus get spent on relevent issues such as Healthcare, Education and Border/Coastal Patrol(which would help stem Guns for Drugs trade).

Another thing you have to know about the Waiting list issue is that those list's are not set in stone. The most dire of cases don't even have to wait that long as they get bumped up, it happened to me when I was in need of CAT scans and ultrasound those waiting lists can be months long but all I had to wait was a few hours(it was a very dire injury though).

Heart Surguries are prompted by poor life style choices so in order to reduce those waiting lists the government needs to be pro-active instead of re-active. Health and Fitness from K-12 should be manditory IMHO.

Back Surguries are another thing that can be remediated by pro-active actions, maybe Posture classes need to become maditory from K-12 as well

I'm going to block my nose and vote Liberal.

Let's face it, we are in an era of minority governments for a good while. Neither the Liberals nor the Conservatives will be able to win a significant amount of seats in Quebec in the next election, and although you can form a government without Quebec, forming a majority government without Quebec would be an unlikely event.

I would've voted for the New Democrats if it weren't for Jack Layton's sudden about-face. Although I can understand him not wanting to be seen as the Liberals' puppet, his timing really sucked - there are important bills out there that need to be finalized before an election, like the telemarketers-do-not-call-list bill, the winter heating bill, as well as the Senate bill clarifying the government's obligation to promote linguistic duality in Canada.

Also, consider this - if it's going to be another minority government, it might as well be one where ministers don't have to learn everything from scratch because they've never been in power... only to be toppled 18 months later.

I'm voting for the one party in Canada which does not inspire me to vomit excessive quantities of bile.
The Green Party of Canada gets my vote.

The conservatives scare me because of the residue of Mulrony and the strains of "When Irish Eyes are Smiling" still echoe in my skull when thinking of the lies of NAFTA.

The liberals scare me because of the sickening slurpy sounds I hear even though the Gomery enquiry kicked them away temporarily. Can you hear it?
Those slurpy sounds are getting louder again! (Dingwall)

And the NDP...I dunno, but Layton really ticked me off by backing the Liberals when the sponsorship scandal broke. I think they're an opportunistic bunch without morals. Besides, Bob Rae is still fresh in my mind too...as the provincial premier he certainly wound up being a lackey of Bay Street.

So...spoiled ballot by voting Green? Maybe...but rather that than the status quo!

I forgot to mention...I'm in Ontario and I'm still reeling from the crap Mike Harris pulled.

[edit on 11-11-2005 by masqua]

Originally posted by Otts
I'm going to block my nose and vote Liberal.

That says more about Canadian politics than any other post I've seen here.

Originally posted by masqua
So...spoiled ballot by voting Green? Maybe...but rather that than the status quo!

#2 on that list.

I'm in Vancouver and my riding will probably go Liberal, it usually does. I will be voting against the Conservatives.

I'll be voting late in the day and if the Liberals have it in the bag, I'll vote Green. They could use the $1.25. I can't bring myself to vote NDP, I just went through 12 years of them provincially.

Here is some recent poll information.

From canada.com

Liberal support at 34%, Tories at 28%, poll finds
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The Ipsos-Reid poll, conducted for CanWest News Service and Global National, offers a glimmer of good news for the minority Liberal government.
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According to the latest poll, if an election were held now, 34% of decided voters would support the Liberals -- up by three points from an Ipsos-Reid poll conducted in the immediate aftermath of the Gomery report's release. The Conservatives, meanwhile, stand at 28% (down by two points); while the NDP remains unchanged at 19%.

The Bloc Quebecois remains dominant in Quebec with 56% support.

I live on the east coast in Nova Scotia, and will end up voting Liberal. It frustrates me beyond that the man who wins the riding probably will not vote for how his people want anyways. He rides the party line to keep the big guy happy; Love live democarcy!

I have always kind of been on the fence when it comes to the liberals and the conservatives, but over the last few years I have become more and more conservative. Last election I gave the liberals shot as their platform seemed pretty good but they have just left such a sour taste in my mouth.

I guess I am going to vote for the conservatives. I live out in beautiful British Columbia. I know my folks are going to vote liberal, always have always will (they’ll probably die when I inform them that I am voting for the conservatives) my brother will go NDP for some reason, and my other brother will vote for the conservatives as well, mostly because he lives in Alberta and works for Schlumberger.

Originally posted by intrepid

Edit: to fix title. "who are" looks better than "who're". Even though we are talking politics.

Thanks. Needed that.

And I agree: Harper scares the poop outta me. Not sure what I'll do...

I'll be damned if I know who i'll vote for. I don't really trust any of the parties. Either they're stealing money or they're giving themselves raises. I just heard yesterday the BC govt gave themselves a 15% - 30% raise (for the 3rd time) A month or two ago, teachers were on strike demanding higher wages. I think they wanted a 2% raise or something. The BC gov't basicly said "screw you and get back to work" and then they go and give themselves a raise. What a joke.

I'll defiantely vote for some one, but I probably won't know till the day I vote.

[edit on 28-11-2005 by Thomas Crowne]

I am so glad someone started a thread for this, I was going to do it.

I live in Ottawa West and currently our riding belongs to Pierre Pollivere a Conservative. Besides being the youngest member in Parliament, in my opinion he is also the most useless. He has done nothing for this riding which he managed to wrestle from former Liberal and Minister of Defence, David Pratt. Pratt managed to get light rail and some major transport routes open in the riding. Pollivere hasn't done a damn thing, the only reason he won is because people in this riding were fed up with the Liberals.

Last election I voted NDP. I lived in downtown Ottawa and Ed Broadbent was running for the NDP. It was the first time I actually researched the people running. Ed won by a landslide (13k to 5k for the Grits) and he is a man who lives up to his ideals.

This time I am not sure who I'll vote for, I want to go NDP, but that may be a throw away vote. Last election the NDP saw the greatest increase of any party in the popular vote (pure number of votes, not ridings) and I think there is a reason for this. I know a lot of people think they are a bunch of goofs, but I do respect what Layton has done with his tiny party. He forced Martin to deny corporate tax breaks in favour of fixing medicare. He used his influence wisely, and for that the NDP has my respect. I honestly think they deserve a chance in federal politics. I know provincially they have pissed off a lot of people, but I think that has more to do with who the premiers are and how they think.

So what I am going to do is the same thing I did last time - I will research the candidates, maybe go to a few public debates and see what's up. It will be either a Liberal (holding my nose too) or NDP, may the best man or woman win.