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We are not Rambo's!

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posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 03:48 AM
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very well put bord


max, you do realize that these are the same people that were resisting the germans for 5 years before we finally we able to liberate them? do you realize how much courage it must have taken to continue resisting when all of your friends were being rounded up and shot, or sent to concentration camps?

these are also the same people who intervened on our behalf to stop the british blockade of our newly founded country. if not for the french, we would still be paying homage to the crown.

do i agree with some of their policies? no. am i pissed at their government for not backing us in iraq? to a degree, yes. do i believe that they should be alot more proactive in dealing with these riots? definitely. but i'm able to give my opinion in the matter without resorting to name calling.


Originally posted by LA_Maximus
Intrepid, I was a US Army soldier for 4 years......so Im not impressed with the picture of that French soldier who probably molested half those kids standing at that fence.

you'll have to do better than that.


Maximu§


that is just about the most ignorant post i have seen here yet. thank god i was in the navy, because i would be ashamed to admit i was in the same army as you.




posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 06:27 AM
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I think Max was dissapointed the last time he went to Eurodisney, and Paris. He didn't get to go to le Louvre, and he messed up with the menu and got the wrong food on his plate.



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 08:01 AM
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So there we were at 2:30 in the morning; I was beginning to wish I had never come to cadet training school. To the south lay water -- there was no way we could cross that. To the east and west two armies squeezed us in a pincer. The only way was north; I had to go for it and pray the Gods were smiling on me. I picked up the dice and threw two sixes. Caldecott couldn't believe it. My go again; another two sixes!

I picked up the dice again... Unbelievable! Another two sixes!

Then -- disaster! I threw a two and a three; Caldecott picked up the dice and threw snake eyes -- I was still in it.

Anyway, to cut a long story short I threw a five and a four which beat his three and a two, another double six followed by a double four and a double five. After he'd thrown a three and a two I threw a six and a three. (I jotted it down in my Risk campaign book. I always used to do that so I could replay my moments of glory over a glass of brandy in the sleeping quarters. I ask you, what better way is there to spend a Saturday night?)

So a six and a three and he came back with a three and a two. After he'd thrown a three and a two and I'd thrown a four and a one. I picked up the dice...

I threw a five and a two! Which it got me into Irkutsk.

Is this ok here? Hey, it's as close to active service as LA has ever got. I wanna live out my fantasies here too!



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 08:05 AM
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Nice 'goal post head' reference there Mark!


Sadly I think that has been around the level of much of this dreary French/Muslim bashing fest.



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 09:49 AM
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Go ahead and laugh it up, but Im gonna call it as I see it. If that offends some of you....I could care less. This non-violent approach to violent protestors is a joke and I will laugh at stupidity when I see it.


Maximu§



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 10:17 AM
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I don't think you have the credibility to be offensive.

Just a little sad. Calling for the extermination of an entire city's population like you did in the Fallujah thread before you edited the post. Ashamed? Not surprised.

Into murdering innocent men women and children LA? You're no better than the terrorists with the twisted bloodlust and Rambo attitude that you espouse. (By proxy of course.)


Originally posted by LA_Maximus
I will laugh at stupidity when I see it.


For God's sake stay away from the hall of mirrors. It could prove fatal.

[edit on 10/11/05 by Mark Harris]



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by TheBandit795

I have an idea

Let's pay a passage for Max, and have him fight in the ring against the first female French soldier we can find. See if he'll last more than 5 minutes...

I think Max was dissapointed the last time he went to Eurodisney, and Paris. He didn't get to go to le Louvre, and he messed up with the menu and got the wrong food on his plate.


This is the 2nd time in this thread that you have used flame-bait on me, hoping to get a reaction that will get me kicked outta ATS.

Your gonna have to do better than that Bandit.

Maximu§



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by LA_Maximus
Several towns in the suburbs of Paris and elsewhere are organizing themselves to restore order after France's worst violence in over 30 years.

The key to their success is gentle persuasion and a watchful eye. "We are not Rambos!" Manuel Aeschliman, the mayor of this town northwest of Paris, reminds a dozen volunteers as they set off for their rounds. "No intervention: If you see something, call it in."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....What a Joke! Maybe these sissies who are patrolling these towns should watch more Rambo movies if they want to survive the next five years.

I wonder if the wives and kids of these burned out towns feel safer with a group of pansies like this patrolling the streets? Personally, I would prefer armed men on the streets with orders to shoot-to-kill any Punk who violates curfew or is armed with any kind of weapon....thats how you restore order. If the French culture wants to survive, they should embrace our American icon (Rambo) , not ridicule him.



Anyhow, here is the wimpy link.....if the French men are not capable of violence to combat evil people in the midst, than maybe its time to put their wives in a Burka and pull out their prayer rugs to face Mecca.

news.yahoo.com...
[edit on 043030p://333 by LA_Maximus]


I just wanted to point out that this is exactly what the minutemen are doing, whom you actually support financially, according to this post. So what makes these community patrols in France being composed of wimps, while these community patrols on the US border being composed of heroes?

Do you feel that our borders are more secure with the minutemen calling in illegals, or should they just go home because they're not helping anything?



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
Are you planning a trip to Paris in the near future? If not why bother with this venomous thread? In other words, WHY SHOULD IT MATTER SO MUCH TO YOU?



the argument works both ways, why does it matter so much to you that his opinions differ diametrically from yours? i don't see any sensible reason, really.

besides i wonder why in our 'global village' (used so often to try to bully the US into signing the Kyoto accords and such...) the prospect of a destabilised Europe suddenly doesn't amount to much any more, tbvh.



Originally posted by marg6043
No Max I don't get it either, been a man doesn't have to be with more violence if this happen in the US it will be left to authorities to deal with it.

Will that make American men look girly? I don't think so is our jobs to defend our property but not losing our lives for something that can be replace.
..


in the US, the main fear seems to be that authorities act heavy-handedly, in the EU, the dogma is being nice, if you aren't, you're a fascist. of course, the politically correct decide who's nice...

sure, stuff can be replaced, but that does not mean you don't have to stop people destroying it for fun. sure, these riots could be worse, i presume, but it's not a situation that can go on for months: there are, in simplified terms, only two options, escalation, or return to normalcy.

if it escalates to a war, which is still a possibility, imagine they torched the wrong building the wrong way, 100+ people could die in a heartbeat, then retailiation would be imminent, noone could possibly stop it, since the both sides have reason to claim they've been betrayed: the muslims by some of their clerics, who condemned their actions, the natives because the government, which is alledgedly there to protect, only cares what the media and rioters believe and about politically viable ways of giving in


in short, the cat's there, dunno if it gets out of the bag, but if it does, people will demand an explanation why the gov't let it escalate, much in the same way the world wondered why the alledgedly skilled French army never kept any reserves to counter a German breakthrough in WW2. this is not a video game, if you f*ck uo, there's no backup, and you're not just losing 'credits' in this game either.



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 01:01 PM
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You have a point there JJ, but the illegal aliens are not rioting, looting and burning private property. Theres quite a difference between these situations. My main point was that these French guys better reach down and grab a pair if they want their French culture to survive the next 5 years.

BTW, I still do support the MM with a $50 payment each month and thanks for not launching into insults like most in here.

Maximu§





[edit on 013030p://444 by LA_Maximus]



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 01:27 PM
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That's the weirdest thing I've ever heard. In Rambo III, Rambo was fighting with the radical Islamic Mujahadeen. If the French security forces were to act like Rambo, they'd be fighting beside the rioters!! Why on Earth would you want that?



Maximus...you are a strange one, I'll give you that much.

[edit on 2005-11-10 by wecomeinpeace]



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 01:31 PM
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No need for 'Rambo'.

It's all winding down.

(I also have to say the use of the term 'girly men' in this matter in an attempt at serious comment was original if sadly amusing)

Nevermind, you'll just have to look elsewhere for the race war some of you seem so determined to see around every and any corner and await the next happening across the atlantic to bash France and Muslims.

(I notice the Muslims demonstrating in Jordan today against the suicide bombers hasn't gotten a comment yet......oh, it has now (see WOT on ATS.)


[edit on 10-11-2005 by sminkeypinkey]



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by wecomeinpeace
Maximus...you are a strange one, I'll give you that much.



Well, the mayor of this town mentioned "we are not Rambo" when organizing non-violent pansey-patrols to try and stop violent Muslim protestors and my point is maybe they outta act a little like Rambo if they want to survive the next set of riots that are coming.

The point is, they need act like men and stop acting like girls if they want their culture to survive. That was the whole point of this thread.

Maximu§



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 01:36 PM
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LA_Maximus wrote:
Well, the mayor of this town mentioned "we are not Rambo"...


Exactly, as in, they are not going to fight alongside Islamic radicals, and then later invade them. Only Rambo would do such a thing.


Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
Nevermind, you'll jut have to look elsewhere for the race war some of you seem so determined to see around every and any corner and await the next happening across the atlantic to bash France and Muslims.


You're right, sminkey. These events must be an absolute drool-fest for the bigots. Never in their wildest dreams would they be given such a golden opportunity to bash Muslims AND the French, all at the same time!



[edit on 2005-11-10 by wecomeinpeace]



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 01:42 PM
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wecomeinpeace, Now your gonna insult me and call me a "bigot"?

I am Bigoted against violent Scum who burn, loot and destroy private property.

I thought maybe you were ready to talk, but instead you prefer to join the others who throw insults at anyone who has a different opinion.

Don't let the door hit you in the a** on the way out.

Maximu§



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by LA_Maximus
wecomeinpeace, Now your gonna insult me and call me a "bigot"?


Did I say you were a bigot? Look at the grammar of my statement - it refers, in general, to those who would bash people purely based on religion or nationality, which is included in the very definition of bigotry. If you are not doing so, then the comment did not refer to you. If you think that the comment was referring to you, then perhaps you have a guilty conscience... *shrug*

[edit on 2005-11-10 by wecomeinpeace]



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by LA_Maximus
This is the 2nd time in this thread that you have used flame-bait on me, hoping to get a reaction that will get me kicked outta ATS.

Your gonna have to do better than that Bandit.

Maximu§


Whahaha!!! Then you really don't know what my intention is, Maximus. I don't want to see you banned at all. In fact I want you and everybody else to realize how stupid, idiotic and ignorant your posts are. And on top of it, you're the one who posted this thread on ATS, which I immediately moved to the slug-fest here. Shows that you don't understand the concept of AboveTopSecret.com either.



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by wecomeinpeace
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These events must be an absolute drool-fest for the bigots. Never in their wildest dreams would they be given such a golden opportunity to bash Muslims AND the French, all at the same time!
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all question related to these events remain unadressed, of course we all know who's a bigot now, but the real issue remains, and it seems as if a few people were more than reluctant to talk shop.

perhaps your precious little dream world (directed at all pro-riot, anti-response guys here) lies shattered before your feet? nah, don't worry, you'll manage build a new one in no time at all, of course, with the bigots being all wrong again.

predictable



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 02:49 PM
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Long Lance get a clue. Where's the 'question related to these events remain unadressed'? This thread is obviously just here as a bitchfest. Did you read the first post? Is there an adult hand now to help? Here's the reminder:


Originally posted by LA_Maximus
....if the French men are not capable of violence to combat evil people in the midst, than maybe its time to put their wives in a Burka and pull out their prayer rugs to face Mecca.


Yes, and the question was? Perhaps you have the wrong thread. Try checking here.

You are a bigot LA, not just aimed at 'scum' though. Don't try and justify your crap.


Originally posted by TheBandit795
In fact I want you and everybody else to realize how stupid, idiotic and ignorant your posts are.

Me too...


Originally posted by LA_Maximus
Intrepid, I was a US Army soldier for 4 years......so Im not impressed with the picture of that French soldier who probably molested half those kids standing at that fence.

An sweeping assumption LA? What did you do in the army?


Originally posted by LA_Maximus

Im no Rambo...

Here's some more. Remember though, not Rambo. Important that no one place any wannabe laughable Rambo label on you huh?


Originally posted by LA_Maximus

These Muslim rioters see the Urine-stain in the pants of the French...



Originally posted by LA_Maximus
If I were an admiral in the US Navy and I was put in charge of cleaning out these pirates....I would take a juicy looking cruise ship and load it up with heavily armed US Marines...



Originally posted by LA_Maximus
Remember that old Pirate saying?

Dead Men Tale no Tale's



Originally posted by LA_Maximus

Of course I snickered at these riots at first, thinking: it serves them right...let France BURN!



Originally posted by LA_Maximus

Yeah, I read 2 punks got electrocuted..



Originally posted by LA_Maximus
I read about this on Drudge and I like the idea....give a tagger (1) warning if their caught and if they do it again, cut off their right thumb.

Sharia Law? But these people are 'SCUM'. Are you scum LA?


Originally posted by LA_Maximus
You know Sardion, there was once a day when Pirates were hanged by the neck out at sea. Maybe that needs to start happening again.....hang them and sink their boats.



Originally posted by LA_Maximus
Their SCUM...KILL THEM!!! Shoot them dead on the streets...

... but French "men" are really in short supply these days. The Girlie-Men that make up the majority of caucasion French men have probably never even been in a real fistfight.

...Socialist Sissies in french society

...The Crusaders (Godbless their brave souls)



Originally posted by LA_Maximus
The French are no longer capable of defending themselves....Hell, they are not even capable of reproducing anymore.

What? You just lost it here yes? French men cannot reproduce? What colour is the sky in your world?


Originally posted by LA_Maximus
-original post removed-

My big mouth strikes again...

Original post stating that all residents of Fallujah are 'SCUM' and deserved to die. Nuked. Obviously this would include all innocent men, women and children. I caught that before the edit. Very nice to see your true colours LA. You don't care to remark on your comment wishing death upon innocent civilians? Nah, probably best to keep your "big mouth" shut.


Originally posted by LA_Maximus
...(I know all I need to know about Islam), they better watch their step



Originally posted by LA_Maximus
As a conservative American, I snickered at these riots...



Originally posted by LA_Maximus

If you don't like it, get some good men together, run the gangs out...



Originally posted by LA_Maximus
All these African immigrants can look forward to is the Iron Fist of military occupation



Originally posted by LA_Maximus
Its days like that which make me glad Im an heavily armed American

But not Rambo.


Originally posted by LA_Maximus

These Punks about to get their butts stomped on by the militarys heavy hand and They get no sympathy from me....



Originally posted by LA_Maximus
History shows that Muslim communities are too violent and lack self-control



Originally posted by LA_Maximus
Its time to get some heavily armed soldiers out there with machine guns.

Im tired of the weaklings...

These rioting Punks need a lesson in firepower.



Originally posted by LA_Maximus
Your right, I am a Bigot. I am prejudiced...

Really? Do tell...


Originally posted by LA_Maximus

Careful there Bucko....your talking to an ex-soldier here. In the 4 years Ive spent in the US Army, Ive fired plenty of fully automatic weapons...

Careful. Rotfl! Or what Bucko? What do you think you could do? Damn you're funny, in a pityful kind of way.


Originally posted by LA_Maximus
America and England are staying put in the Middle East and we won't leave
....you might want to pack up and get outta Dodge.



Originally posted by LA_Maximus
Im sure they will be in our gunsights soon enough when the Iraqi Shiites decide to launch their "Jihad" against us.....

They can all go to the Devil.



Originally posted by LA_Maximus
... if we pull out and show weakness (Like the Navy cowards did in Jordan last week)

Rambo or John Wayne?


Originally posted by LA_Maximus
I have plenty of common sense.




Originally posted by SimonGray
Terms and Conditions of use of the AboveTopSecret.com and BelowTopSecret Message Board(s)


By using these domains, you agree to the following:

1.) You will not post any material that is knowingly false, misleading, or inaccurate.

Violation? Hmmnn, knowingly... might be ok.


Originally posted by LA_Maximus
....it hardens us and drives us on to finish them off and stomp the life outta radical Islamic extremists like the cockaroaches that they are.



Originally posted by LA_Maximus
American combat troops are not leaving the Middle East until Iran has a new government....or is in ashes.

Privvy to secret information now? I can't see it myself. I wouldn't trust you with a rubber spoon. Insider knowledge? Knowledge would be a nice start.


Originally posted by LA_Maximus
We shoulda fed him to our attack dogs and saved him the misery of living life in a wheelchair.



Originally posted by LA_Maximus
... and I, as an ex-soldier

Yawn... Whatever Shirley.


Originally posted by LA_Maximus
Arnold, be careful how you talk to an American soldier.

Never, never forget your dealing with a trained Killer...

You got a Big Mouth and I suggest you learn how to control it or someone will do it for you.

Threats? Trained killer? I don't think so. More a vile, contemptuous little man so desperate for some kind of attention or respect so obviolusly lacking in real life that you feel the need to resort to the glory of online anonymity and a realm of wild fantasies. Still saves you getting your repugnant little arse kicked on a regular basis on the real streets huh? No, not Rambo, only some sad wannabe just trying to act tough from a safe distance.

Bigot? Well, well. Look here:

[French, from Old French.]

Word History: Bigots may have more in common with God than one might think. Legend has it that Rollo, the first duke of Normandy, refused to kiss the foot of the French king Charles III, uttering the phrase bi got, his borrowing of the assumed Old English equivalent of our expression by God. Although this story is almost surely apocryphal, it is true that bigot was used by the French as a term of abuse for the Normans, but not in a religious sense. Later, however, the word, or very possibly a homonym, was used abusively in French for the Beguines, members of a Roman Catholic lay sisterhood. From the 15th century on Old French bigot meant “an excessively devoted or hypocritical person.”

Is that why you have such an intense dislike of the French, because they nailed you with just one word?

Oops... should I have been careful? I forgot you are a trained monkey. Going to threaten me? Lmfao! You ok behind that keyboard?

You find the statement of interest because you have a rabid hated of (but no doubt not limited to) the French and you idolise Rambo, no doubt because he is the antithesis of your impotent real life self. Ohh, oohh. How badly do you want to open that 'big mouth' and tell me just what (little) you think? ROTFL! I can feel the pent up frustration from here. Do you find you just don't get the respect you deserve in real life?


Petulant halfwit.



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 02:59 PM
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Wow, Mark you sure dug deep into my famous quotes......Everyone of them holds water and is the honest truth.

You are probably the most Hateful and angry person Ive seen in ATS so far....I wonder how many threads have been shut-down because of your rhetoric? Come back when your ready to talk like an adult.

I don't have time to get into 20 page screaming matches with the likes of you.

Maximu§




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