Originally posted by Syrian Sister
YEah the Image i just posted., AND THE REPORT FROM the GUARDIAN, a western media source i do belive.
The image doesnt work, the guardian got thier info FROM the commander, so I ask again.
LOL LOL, It saves British lives, not civilian lives. BECAUSE BY YOUR ADMITION, the resistance can no longer use the infra red bombs, when british cars
get so close to civilian cars, since that could result in the death of civilians.
No its saves civilians, the first to die in an insurgent attack WOULD BE CIVILIANS. Insurgents have 0 problem attacking coalition forces while
civilians are in the road, infact it seems like a common strategy to use them as human shields...gee I wonder....mabye this could be....a
The pure definition of human shields, the british are taking those cars hostage.
No they are not, if they where they would FORCE them to drive in formation around the convoy, they are not.
The definition of human shield is holding a baby infront of you as a shield, geee wonder if the "resisitance" does that? Yes it does.
Evidence that my assesment is correct and yours is not, the next line OF the report goes :
"This can work in busy, urban centres like Basra but is more difficult in the wide, nearly empty deserts that make up much of the south of the
No evidence to suggest that it doesnt work out in the open IS in it but no evidence saying they are using them as human shields.
So obviously the brits concern, is not that civilian could be at risk when the bomb goes off, but that there are not enough civilians around to use as
No thats YOUR assesment, Thats YOUR opinion.
The brits concern is about civilian lives, read up on NI and what mistakes we made then.
Well in Fallujah as the image shows, you strapped kids to humvees. But in Basra, you just get as close to the back of them as possible so they would
get hit first.
Nope, the british army doesnt use humvees. Thier a POS.
The british forces drive that close to save people from being killed if an attack happens, why? Because insrugents do and will plant bombs in civilian
areas, disguised as civilians and use civilians as a weapon.
So your definition of being nice to locals, is kidnapping a palestinian kid and tying him up at the front of the vehicle, using him as a human
Nope, giving him sweets is now seemingly illegal to everyone on the board.
LOL are you trying to say Iraqies don't See IRAQIES as human?
The insurgency isnt all iraqies, you and I know this , YOU are generalising.
The insurgency cares about winning, not the cost. That is a typical paramilitary style thinking, the IRA thought that way and so did the UVF.
a) you helped that dicator into power in the first place
And we removed him
b) It's only Iraqies right to change and overthrow their own leaders, it's not the place of another country to come in and medle with anothers, the
Iraqi people won'e accept such an affront on their dignity. It's not that Iraqies don't want change, they just don't want you to change it for
them, And not through A WAR ON THEIR COUNTRY. If your war on Iraq was really about "change", then why launch such a huge war and occupation, it
would only have take one bullet in saddams head. And why this dictator? Why not all the other equally horrible dictatorships that you continue to
support? obviously this is not what this is about.
No, A) assasinations lead to chaos and anrachy meaning civil war.
B) Simply taking him out doesnt remove the regime that ruled with an iron grip.
C) I guess we shouldnt have stopped the nazis in WW2 then huh since that is meddelling in the rest of europes problems.
c) The US and Britian has killed more iraqies than saddam ever did, And now they have put in another regime which is just as murderous and torterous
and treaturous as the last.
The iraqi government has never to my knowledge become as bad as the Ba'ath one did.
The coalition did not kill over 400,000 iraqi's.
No way in hell we could manage that body toll.
You just said it was the civilians own fault they are dead, because they housed resistance fighters!!!! Did you or did you not say that?
I didnt say that lol.
I said coalition forces kill insurgents but civilians hide them, if the insrugents use them as shields what do we do?
YOu know the nazi's used to wipe out towns, when they saw any resistance coming out of that town. Just like the americans did to fallujah, al Qaim,
ramadi, tal afaar, Sadr city, and najaf.
Yes I know they wiped out towns, but as far as I know america has never flattened any town and killed everyone inside.
BTW, it would be easy for the coalition to do so to.
No you use bombs, and CIA interrogators at abu gharib. And you intimidate your own people at home by stripping civil liberties, and calling any
american and brit that doesn't support your war a traitor.
And our survery said...wrong.
The UK has no CIA.
The UK does not work at abu gharib.
Our country is very open about its lack of support for the war now, and we certanly dont call the traitors.
Oh and BTW, we do not strip liberties here, hell I can still do everything I could before with 0 risk.
Huh? when have i ever said it wasn't a 2 sided war? It is a two side warer, one Side is the Iraqi and it's allies, the other side is america it's
lap dog nations and it's puppet traitors.
BTW, "lap dog nations", oh yeah I'm sure the worlds oldest democracy is SOOO acting like a lap dog that it is infact the president of the EU.
You yourself have claimed many times isreali's and varios other governments are involved.
I thought you where thinking outside the box?
Think about it....who would gain from a war like this? Dont just think about the western barons and the governments.....or the eastern criminals and
No gorrilla army can exist without a support base from the population, that standard 101
That is true, but what percentage of the population that is IS the question.
. The Iraqi resistance is made up of Iraqi people, Without the support of the iraqi population, they can't move so easily from city to city, and they
can't be sheltered and supported. The resistance is made up of the iraqi people and the iraqi people is what its all about.
Or is it abotu hitting americans?
Think how many forign fighters go across the border...think about how many iraqis are in it for themselves not iraq.
I agree, like the US executed Iraqi and Vietnamese Civilians and Prisoners of war, and like when the US bombarded the civilian cities hiroshima and
nagasaki, and when britian bombarded to shreds the city of dresden, and when the US and Britain bombarded civilian areas all over iraq.
Yes those acts accurred, all but the last mentioned happened in diffrent times and in a diffrent world almost.
The last ones happen because of 2 things
A) Enemy hiding amognst civilians
B) Enemy using them as shields
C) Suspecting the people inside are terrorists.
I really wish you would think outside the box SS....I though you smarter than that....are you proving me wrong?