The media are minimising US and British war crimes in Iraq, page 2

UK troops do not use human shields, period.

www.guardian.co.uk...

UK's Iraq forces face Hizbullah-style roadside bombs

· Infra-red devices almost impossible to detect
· Weapons pierce vehicles' armoured protection

Ewen MacAskill and Simon Tisdall
Thursday October 6, 2005
The Guardian

British forces have no answer to the sophisticated roadside bombs being used against them in Iraq. They are almost impossible to detect. They are triggered when a vehicle touches an invisible, infra-red beam. And they are almost impossible to stop. The explosives power a metal ball capable of penetrating most of the armour-plating used by the army.

The insurgent has to be able to see the British vehicle coming. If he or she was to set the infra-red beam too soon, the victims could be Iraqi civilians rather than British troops. Recently, British forces have tried to circumvent this by sticking nose to tail with Iraqi vehicles. This can work in busy, urban centres like Basra but is more difficult in the wide, nearly empty deserts that make up much of the south of the country.

So basically what the british are admitting to be doing, is that they are getting their vehicles as close to civilian vehicles as possible, so that the iraqi resistance cannot attack them using the new weapon. Basically admitting using iraqi civlians as human shields.

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portland.indymedia.org...

US Forces Using Iraqi Children as Human Shields
author: IM
Resistance field commander saw American troops use women and children as human shields atop their tanks.
A field commander in the Iraqi Resistance disclosed to a correspondent for Mafkarat al-Islam in al-Fallujah what he called the "tragedy of the street fighting" by which he meant the way that the invading American troops were using Iraqi women and children as human shields.

The commander said that the tragedy began last Tuesday. Before that he had never seen it before, where the Americans were using women and children to shield their tanks. The commander commented: "this state is living through a type of savagery that history has never known before."

The Resistance field commander said "we could hear the cries of the children and the women's calls for help from atop a column of tanks that was driving along ath-Tharthar street last Tuesday. Some of our fighters closed their eyes in pain and wept at the sight."

As Iraqi Resistance attacks in the city of al-Qa’im on the border with Syria increase, American troops in the city have taken to using Iraqi children as human shields. As a result, local people are keeping their children home from school.

The correspondent of Mafkarat al-Islam in the city reported that every time American troops want to go on patrol in downtown al-Qa’im – something they are obliged to do by the orders they receive – the soldiers attract children to them using candy and presents. When the children approach to take the trinkets, the soldiers grab dozens of them and put them on the backs of their tanks and armored vehicles to prevent the Resistance from attacking them.

It's an israeli tactic as Trodas, has mentioned. I guess the US learns from it's allies.

www.msnbc.msn.com...

Mohammed Badwan, 13, was apparently grabbed by Israeli officers and tied by one arm to a screen covering the windshield of their armored vehicle. A photographer snapped a picture of the incident

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The US and UK dont "murder" people ever period full stop.

Why, you don't consider iraqies human?

If people are stupid enough to fight against the liberation of the fine country of Iraq, they die as enemy combatants, they are not murdered.

LOL, you mean, if people are patriotic enough to fight against the illegal invasion of the fine country iraq.

You will kill them, and anyone that supports them.

Well FIY , IT'S THEIR COUNTRY!!!!!! and they have the right to fight against an invader, even if you belive yourself to be "liberating them" you have no stake or responsibility over the lives of iraqies, Your not their parent that knows what's good for them, and you have no right to meddle with them.

The only thing you seem to be liberating them from is their lives and their oil.

Hitler said he was "liberating" poland. History has a way of repeating, you so called liberators.

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Umm no, the civilians don't want to fight, hence the word civilian The Iraqi insurgent/terrorists use them as shields, as they know western morals will make coalition soldiers hesitate.

LOL, civilians may not be fighting but they ofcource can help the resistance in a 1000 other ways.

The iraqi resistance could not exist without the iraqi people.

And we both know rogue, which side is using human shields, and which side has no qualms about burning children to death with chemical weapons.

But what can we expect from an area which has bred barbarism for centuries if not millenia

What a racist comment, If we are barberic, what are you? Barbarism is the British occupation of india, barbarism the American slaughter of 10 million native americans. Barbarism, is wiping out the aboriginals. Barbarism is the war on vietnamn and the war on iraq.

Barbarism is Agent orange, Napalm, white phospherous, and depleted Uranium.