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Originally posted by KrazyIvan
why did we beat the russians to the moon? why do we have a space shuttle when the russians still dont have one? why have most of our aircraft over come thier disadvantages to the russian ones? WHY DID STALIN STEAL THE PLANS FOR THE B-29? Why did they rely in the Rosenbergs to give them the plans for the Bomb? there will be far fewer scientific advantages under a communist system than a capitalist system! its always been that way. You want to know WHY? the GNP is spent mainly on the military in the communist systems of today. look at china and N. Korea. Science needs money, otherwise your country will be left behind!
Originally posted by KrazyIvan
Originally posted by banjoechef
you think science only progresses because scientists make money? man thats a shallow thought
why did we beat the russians to the moon? why do we have a space shuttle when the russians still dont have one? why have most of our aircraft over come thier disadvantages to the russian ones? WHY DID STALIN STEAL THE PLANS FOR THE B-29? Why did they rely in the Rosenbergs to give them the plans for the Bomb? there will be far fewer scientific advantages under a communist system than a capitalist system! its always been that way. You want to know WHY? the GNP is spent mainly on the military in the communist systems of today. look at china and N. Korea. Science needs money, otherwise your country will be left behind!
Originally posted by stumpy
I can't beleive I am even replying to this topic.
No one preaching the wonders of socialism has made a decent point.
The point about the pyramids, and providing housing and food in return for them building the pyramids?!?!?
You just described slavery. You likened communism and socialism to slavery, which it basically is.
[Edited on 22-10-2003 by stumpy]
Originally posted by CiderGood_HeadacheBad
Originally posted by KrazyIvan
why did we beat the russians to the moon? why do we have a space shuttle when the russians still dont have one? why have most of our aircraft over come thier disadvantages to the russian ones? WHY DID STALIN STEAL THE PLANS FOR THE B-29? Why did they rely in the Rosenbergs to give them the plans for the Bomb? there will be far fewer scientific advantages under a communist system than a capitalist system! its always been that way. You want to know WHY? the GNP is spent mainly on the military in the communist systems of today. look at china and N. Korea. Science needs money, otherwise your country will be left behind!
Communist nations have to, or had to, spend a lot of money on their military because if they were weak, the Americans would invade and replace the government. If the USA hadn't been so paranoid, and had been willing to let these nations get on with conducting the most important social experiment in history, then communism might have worked more for the betterment of humanity.
Capitalism, and money, do nothing for scientific advancement, besides in some cases upping the stakes in competition. Things simply don't get done, especially large building projects, because of money and corruption.
Look at projects like the Egyptian Pyramids. There was no paperwork involved, the workers were, instead of being paid money, given a home and as much food as they needed in return for their services. One of the greatest achievements of humanity, and none of the beauraucracy we see today in capitalist society.
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"We will not rest until the last capitalist has been strangled with the guts of the last beauraucrat"
Originally posted by banjoechef
Originally posted by KrazyIvan
Originally posted by banjoechef
you think science only progresses because scientists make money? man thats a shallow thought
why did we beat the russians to the moon? why do we have a space shuttle when the russians still dont have one? why have most of our aircraft over come thier disadvantages to the russian ones? WHY DID STALIN STEAL THE PLANS FOR THE B-29? Why did they rely in the Rosenbergs to give them the plans for the Bomb? there will be far fewer scientific advantages under a communist system than a capitalist system! its always been that way. You want to know WHY? the GNP is spent mainly on the military in the communist systems of today. look at china and N. Korea. Science needs money, otherwise your country will be left behind!
you've missed my point, point was they dind't do the research for the money in it so much as making the discovery i'm sure, if i was a scientist i wouldn't be learning all the stuff they need to know just fer the monye there are far easier jobs which make u just as much money, i was just saying that money doesn't drive discovery, man drives discovery, this was to rebute a comment about a stagnent state of development due to communistic practise, not to say that it has been shown in history, because there has been no true communisms with which to show such evidence
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
LOL!
*Wipes away tears of laughter*
Yeah, communism has been so good to the world! HAHAHAH!
*Picks self back up from floor to chair*
The first bunch to the New Continent almost starved because their first idea was communism, too!
HARDEEHARHAR!
If you don't have the testicles to be all you can be in this world, smoke a revolver; don't try and stick your filthy paws in what my family earns!
Being pro-commy means either
A) I have visions of belonging to the ruling elite
or
B) I am a lazy bum and want to eat from someone else's harvest!
Shut the heck up and go to work.
Originally posted by CiderGood_HeadacheBad
Originally posted by KrazyIvan
i agree. go bitch to kimmy or stalin! somebody who gives a flying #. do you commies know that you will never win an election of any sort? you are just wasting your breath.
We don't need to win an election. Up the revolution!
Originally posted by KrazyIvan
can you answer why then did the commies need to steal stuff from the capitalist if they are so "evil" to them?