If you want to be taken seriously here prove to us that you're willing to take the time to show the English language some respect. You'll find people will pay more attention to you if they can understand you.

Anyway, on topic, capitalism works and communism doesn't. Capitalism does exactly what it is intended to - it makes a very small number of people very rich. Whether it is a good system is a different matter.

I think communism would be the best system of government if it worked. It doesn't work because of flaws in human nature, not in the philosophy. Greedy people, sadistic people and lazy people abuse communism.

A question to those on the right wing - If communism did work, eg; equality, equal pay, everyone works and everyone has a home, would you like to see it happen? And how do you justify capitalism, a system where the majority of the world's wealth is controlled by a tiny minority, and billions of people live in poverty because others won't share?

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
LOL!
*Wipes away tears of laughter*
Yeah, communism has been so good to the world! HAHAHAH!
*Picks self back up from floor to chair*
The first bunch to the New Continent almost starved because their first idea was communism, too!
HARDEEHARHAR!

If you don't have the testicles to be all you can be in this world, smoke a revolver; don't try and stick your filthy paws in what my family earns!
Being pro-commy means either
A) I have visions of belonging to the ruling elite
or
B) I am a lazy bum and want to eat from someone else's harvest!

Shut the heck up and go to work.

i agree. go bitch to kimmy or stalin! somebody who gives a flying #. do you commies know that you will never win an election of any sort? you are just wasting your breath.

Originally posted by KrazyIvan
i agree. go bitch to kimmy or stalin! somebody who gives a flying #. do you commies know that you will never win an election of any sort? you are just wasting your breath.

We don't need to win an election. Up the revolution!

Originally posted by Strigoi
i do work , full time. and i still rarely make it through the month and paying the bills. and in the instance of not having the internet or be able to have anti anything pages, you are reffering to stalin-russia. thats like saying you can't be a jew and live in germany. they were evil dictators , yet you think thats what everyone there is like. if this capitolism is so great how come i work full time and barely have enough to afford a one bedroom apartment in a so-so town? while others are basking in there wealth that was passed down to them , and then there are people that live better and never work a day of there life do to the fact they mooch off the goverment (ala food stamps etc.)

and you say if you want more money go to college. this poses another problem, what does it take to get to college? MONEY! unless you are get schlorships for which i was unable (not because of my neglect or anything before you start finding reasons to bash me). i can't live at home, i don't have that option. so where is one suppose to go?

[Edited on 20-9-2003 by Strigoi]

whats you job? and theres another way into college, its called the GI Bill and another thing if you dont want to live in a one room apartment get off you ass, and go to school! get an asscoiates degree or something, join the #ing military, but stop complaining. you ideas of commnuism will never fly. it wont work. it never has worked. i like capitalism. i like not having lazy people such as yourself make the same money i do when i work my ass off and you just sit there. communism will only work in theroy. thats the only way. it will not work in real life.

Originally posted by CiderGood_HeadacheBad

Originally posted by KrazyIvan
i agree. go bitch to kimmy or stalin! somebody who gives a flying #. do you commies know that you will never win an election of any sort? you are just wasting your breath.

We don't need to win an election. Up the revolution!

your "revolution" will be curshed without mercy.

you say communism can't work because it hasn't yet, well like i said there has to be no capitolism for communism to work, just like for capitolism to work it's best there has to be no socialist stuff

Originally posted by banjoechef
you say communism can't work because it hasn't yet, well like i said there has to be no capitolism for communism to work, just like for capitolism to work it's best there has to be no socialist stuff

you have to have people that wont get corupt for communism to work and that will neve happen. therefore communism will never work.

Originally posted by banjoechef
you say communism can't work because it hasn't yet, well like i said there has to be no capitolism for communism to work, just like for capitolism to work it's best there has to be no socialist stuff

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!!Disclaimer!!
Chef, I'm sorry, I'm criticizing your expression of your views, not you...


THAT WAS FREAKIN' STUPID!!!


Capitalism-
"Be all you can be"
Earn as much as you possibly can
Based on personal work integrity and progression in life

Communism
be content without being average
be "exactly" like everyone else
scientific advancement will not occur...

It's that simple,
- Tass

[Edited on 25-9-2003 by Tassadar]

you think science only progresses because scientists make money? man thats a shallow thought

Originally posted by banjoechef
i just use short forms'n such, i could use deceent langugae if i wanted i just dun feel it's needed on here

anyways why dun we keep on topic here instead of flamin each other cuz it's pointless

In other words, you say we aren't worth the time to use proper grammar and punctuation? I share that opinion of you, then, but I will continue to use proper grammar out of self-respect. I think we have discovered another big difference between you and many others here.

You seem to have a really warped and distorted view on concepts, such as capitalism, democracy, government and economics. I also believe that you can do no harm here as most people should realize by now that you are quite confused, so I am off to wander otehr threads. Now, quit wasting time with people for whom you have no respect and go build your idealistic utopia. Just do it somewhere else. I know how that train ride will end, and would rather it not be in my neighborhood when it leaves the rails. Maybe you can find some island to buy, and you can recruit the finest non-strivers laziness can buy. Speaking of buying, I already see a problem. Coming up with the jack to buy the island!

i speak the way i do cuz i respect my own use of language, i am not bound by any conventions, now about the topic, how do u think the indigenous tribes lived off the land in north america, they were not corrupt and wanting power they just lived with each other so i think it isn't a flaw in humans it's a flaw which develops from the competition forced apon people in capitolism, people devised ways of getting ahead in the competition and thus corruption was born

Originally posted by banjoechef
i think it isn't a flaw in humans it's a flaw which develops from the competition forced apon people in capitolism

Agreed. I will not offer any solution because I'm hopeless.

also to thomas crown about capitolism doing what it's supposed to cuz it's making rich ppl richer and poor ppl poorer, what happens when the people are poor to the state of slavery, because it will eventually have to be like that for the rich people to continue being richer, when everyone is slaves they can't make money, they'll have defeated themselves no?

You don't have to be poor!
Your family's financial stautus has no control over you...

Look at Richard King.
five year-old boy, orphan, living in the middle of the ghetto in the New York slums... thirty years later he owned about 20% of Texas. Now, is he getting poorer through capitalization.
Don't let your liberal schooling hamper your education...
- Tass

i know u don't have to be poor but there has to be poor people for there to be rich people

If you want to look at it that way, think about this:
Current America:
Poor people: 14,000 per year (mostly welfare)
Middle Class: 30,000-70,000 per year
Upper Mid Class: 70,001-150,00 anually
Upper Class" 150,001+ annually

America under far left-winged liberal/communist views:
Everyone: 24,000 annualy

America under capitalist/conservative rule without liberal radicals complaining
"Poor" People: 30,000
Middle Class People:50,000-100,000
Upper Class: 100,001 - 10,000,000+?

Think about it, your "poorest" citizen would be wealthier than most rich citizens in other countries...
- Tass

[Edited on 26-9-2003 by Tassadar]

America under far left-winged liberal/communist views:
Everyone: 24,000 annualy

if the whole US turned communist right now everyone would have around $94k . inflation would rise, but thats much more generous than the 24k

I figured this quote would contribute a little something to the thread:

"Please, please, kids, stop fighting. Maybe Lisa's right about America being the land of opportunity,and maybe Adil's got a point about the machinery of capitalism being oiled with the blood of the workers." Homer J. Simpson

24k, 96k, 300k, it's all the same, thse who work their @$$e$ off can the same amount of money as the street bums...
How can you possibly accept being the same as everyone else?
We'd be like *chokes*...machines...
Yes, If we were the same as everyone else, we'd be in one of those "love yourself, love your mother, love you brother, love your father, love your planet..." utopian societies where no one ever reached the highest possible achievement for themselves.
Again, why don't you want to "Be all you can be!"?
- Tass

You morons wouldn't have the freedoms you have now if it wasn't for the socialists!
Ever heard of the progressive movement?!