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Originally posted by alternateheaven
As for the idea of a global power grid I would say that is a dangerous concept because one crucial break could cut off an entire segment of a country or perhaps the whole country in and of itself.
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Originally posted by StellarX
If they really wanted to help us why not tell us they are going to raise oil prices to save us from ourselves? Do you think people will stand for being treated like that?
Originally posted by MCory1
How many smokers, alcoholics, or illicit drug addicts do you know and have tried to convince to quit? More often than not, you can't just make someone stop something by just telling them how bad it is for them. I know--if I had a dollar for everytime someone tried to get me to quit smoking for my health, I could've bought RJR and still have enough left over for a good round in the hospital once things do go screwy on me.
If I have enough money to where I don't have to decide between the two, then I'll still think twice if the prices are just to make some rich guy richer--but if it's intentionally to get me to quit, I'll keep smoking just out of spite. I don't want someone to force me to quit.
Same with gas. I've even started working from home in the past few months and arranged for transportation for my fiance when she's had to work, just because I can't afford to fill up my gas tank more than twice a week. Many people I know have gone to similar lengths, be it public transportation, walking where they need to go, just not going anywhere unless they have to, whatever, just to avoid the prices at the pump.
I'm too cynical to think this is the case, but man would I love to hear of a "nice" conspiracy for once...
Originally posted by Thatoneguy
Do any of you people believe in Alternative fuels?
If so then perhaps you wouldnt continue to spew the brainless "oil execs are lining their pockets because they can" garbage
If alternative fuels do exist, then it would not be in the oil companies best interest to raise prices. Raising prices reduces demand and encourages investments into alternatives. Higher gas prices send more people to hybrid cars as the topic starter stated.
If there are no alternatives, then you can expect the prices to rise as demand outpaces supply. Abiotic oil could be real. There could be billions and billions of barrels left in the ground but that means jack **** if you cant pump out enough to meet daily demand.
I invite those of us here that are peak oil aware to head over to peakoil.com where there is actual intelligent discussion and not the continous "bush and the oil companies are robbing us to make themselves richer"
They can pump out enough and they do in fact pump out enough as you should know from reading a few of the threads here.... Supply and demand has very little to do with the current oil price as there is no shortage of oil on the world market.
In 2003, world oil supplies more closely kept pace with demand in contrast to 2002, when demand significantly outpaced supply (Table 8).
Originally posted by StellarX
Valid as your pointis do they ever suggest that the extra tax will be spent helping people with these addictions? If they really cared for your health these products could simply be take off the street and the fact that they are not either means they do not care about your health or that they control the trade and love making extra money off addicts of all kinds who feel quilty enough to keep paying ever higher prices....
Why should the government be able to levy an extra tax on what you choose to do with your life? Why do you not take responsibility for your actions and demand the lowest prices for your drug/addiction of choice? If your feeling quilty enough to pay extra it's costing extra for everyone and they may have decided they really want to do it whatever the result? Is this not a classic case of people expecting the state to regulate their irresponsible behaviour ( if they do not want to smoke but can not stop themselves) when they do not have enough self respect, or interest, to make decisions and stick to them?
Well how long will people put up with this when they realise there is no supply problem or in fact any resource of production problem that can warrent these prices? The shortages is engineered and the longer people put up with them they worse they will get imo.
Originally posted by managerie
Perhaps, those more savvy than we have figured this out. If the oil reserves are peaking, and I think they are, then we must wean ourselves off of the resource slowly and the energy companies would need (or want) a massive amount of gross profits to fund research and development into new energy source deployment.
3. Must wean people to lower use of oil to buy more time for R&D.