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Originally posted by Uncle Joe
Congratulations to the French government for teaching its immigrant descendants the very worst of French behaviour.
It is not a Muslim problem, it is a poverty and rascism situation where the protagonists happen to be Muslim. And it has now hijacked by some thugs intent on destruction.
I'm sick of the bull# excuses for the behavior of this muslim scum
Originally posted by Sugarlump
Ok American I was trying to be nice but I WILL NOT under any circumstances let my words be twisted by someone who wishes to perpetuate raw fear and IGNORANCE on some stupid web board.
If you want my honest opinion the entire reasoning and outrage behind the riots is a load of crap. But for you to in some way assume you have any clue what my world view is by one post and then to twist it and throw it back is purelly unacceptable.
oh and PS: MOLOTOVS... not bombs in any way shape or form at best you get a dull whoosh as the fuel oil ignites.
Originally posted by Sugarlump
for the last time as I've plainly stated molotov cocktails aren't bombs, they are incendiary devices.
The article was blatantly misleading and in my opinion designed to play on people's existing fears, whether it was to sell more papers or some other reason is really irrelevant.
Honestly what I find most disturbing though is how both sides lined up to use an article, which is blatantly misleading and SHOULD have been caught given the relativelly high knowledge level of ATS posters, to champion their view points. It would have been much more rewarding and in my opinion edifying to see at least the first couple of posts rightfully panning the horrible level of spin doctoring that is being resorted to these days.
Originally posted by American Mad Man
Actually, yeah, that does fit your agenda. Muslims can only do wrong if they are some how forced to do so.
Yeah, I knew that France, and Europe in general, has an INFESTATION of radical, no good, worthless Islamic scum bags that absolutely RUIN the good name of other Muslim immegrents that adapted to their new home and made a life for themselves rather then blaming everyone but themselves for their problems. But no, these scum buckets feel the need to riot like the barbarians they are.
That is how it is done, and untill they accept that nothing will be HANDED them - that they must work for everything and not throw hissy fits and riot - no one will respect them, and further more they will never have a better life.
Originally posted by Souljah
You know WHO is a BEAST - a Slaveowner, who HANDS People from the trees and then Burn them. Thats Barbaric. But ofcourse - you forgot all about that, huh? So easy to blame the Problems of the world upon one Group of People, isn't it?
Originally posted by AceOfBase
Do you know who else did that and continued long after the Americans and Europeans stopped?
The muslims, that's who.
They even took Europeans as slaves.
Perhaps the Europeans should be throwing molatav cocktails into muslim neighborhoods and onto muslims cars and buses.
Originally posted by Souljah
Wanna check the SLAVERY Today?
Modern Slavery
The enslavement of the Dinkas in southern Sudan may be the most horrific and well-known example of contemporary slavery. According to 1993 U.S. State Department estimates, up to 90,000 blacks are owned by North African Arabs, and often sold as property in a thriving slave trade for as little as $15 per human being.
Animist tribes in southern Sudan are frequently invaded by Arab militias from the North, who kill the men and enslave the women and children. The Arabs consider it a traditional right to enslave southerners, and to own chattel slaves (slaves owned as personal property).
Physical mutilation is practiced upon these slaves not only to prevent escape, but to enforce the owners' ideologies. According to an ASI report: "Kon, a thirteen-year-old Dinka boy, was abducted by Arab nomads and taken to a merchant's house. There he found several Dinka men hobbling, their Achilles tendons cut because they refused to become Muslims. Threatened with the same treatment the boy converted."
Originally posted by AceOfBase
Originally posted by Uncle Joe
Congratulations to the French government for teaching its immigrant descendants the very worst of French behaviour.
It is not a Muslim problem, it is a poverty and rascism situation where the protagonists happen to be Muslim. And it has now hijacked by some thugs intent on destruction.
I'm sick of the bull# excuses for the behavior of this muslim scum.
If the racism is so bad they can just move back to their own country or the country their parents came from. Don't destroy the city that took you in and gave you their own citizens money in the form of welfare.
Originally posted by Souljah
No - but this is NOT an Religious Topic. Its a Poverty and Crime Topic. Every RACE and RELIGION has that Problems, not just Muslims.
The Fact that these Kids are majority from Africa and that they are Muslims makes you extremly Happy huh AMM?
Now you can further drive your ultimate hatred for them and say, that these people are nothing but savages anyway.
And WHERE did you READ that they are RADICAL, NO GOOD and WORTHLESS?!?!
Its People like YOU and the Genious of the French Internal Minister that are Making them feel its Worth it! Can't you see that? When they are Labelled like you just did, 7 days a week, 4 week a month, maybe, just MAYBE they get a little Impatient?
Noooo - ofcorse not. They just RIOT because they are Animals!
They are Barbarians!
Wild Men!
Beasts!
You know WHO is a BEAST - a Slaveowner, who HANDS People from the trees and then Burn them. Thats Barbaric. But ofcourse - you forgot all about that, huh? So easy to blame the Problems of the world upon one Group of People, isn't it?
They had NO respect before.
What makes them LESS INFERIOR?
Religion?
Color of the SKIN?
Color of their EYES?
When you cut them, they BLEED the same as You and Me.
But, I guess nobody cares about that anymore.
Pure #ing RACISM!
Originally posted by AceOfBase
Yes, I would like to check slavery today.
I want you to do it also.
Is there slavery in the United States?
There is slavery in the United States, mostly due to human trafficking for domestic work, migrant farm labor, or work in the sex industry. Migrant workers are tricked into working for little or no pay as means of repayment for debts from their transport into the US, similar to debt bondage in South Asia. Domestic workers and women in the sex industry are trafficked into the US with promises of jobs and education and then held as slaves. The US government estimates that 50,000 people are trafficked into the U.S. each year!
Free The Slaves
It’s a Wednesday night and the farm workers are gathered in their weekly meeting. They are members of the Coalition of Immokalee Workers, a local worker-led labor and human rights organization. At tonight’s meeting they are discussing the abuses they must live through, and also considering what must be done to improve their situation. The participants are all from Mexico, Central America and Haiti. The workers are using sketches to portray how the worst crew leaders have abused them. One of the pictures portrays a man stuffing a pistol in to his front pocket. He’s saying “and if anyone tries to leave without paying off your debt, I’ll kill him!” This is one way slavery afflicts America today.
The workers who have escaped captivity teach me about the reality of slavery in the US by recounting their personal experiences. “He sold us like animals,” one ex-captive told me, explaining how a ‘coyote’ (smuggler) tricked him into going to Florida by taking on the debt the worker owed for the transport over the border. “He gave the coyote money to pay for guiding us across the border and then told us we could pick tomatoes in Florida to pay him back.” The coyote told the worker he could pay of the debt by picking tomatoes, but made him believe he would earn $5.50 an hour doing so
www.freetheslaves.net...
Originally posted by Crakeur
here's how you protest your unemployment and poverty:
get a job.
move to an area where there are jobs
these people moved from their homeland to france for a better life and it isn't there. so move again
cold and callous? sure but that's the way you get ahead.
I am so tired of people making excuses for acts that have no valid explanation.
Originally posted by AceOfBase
Originally posted by XyZeR
This entire situation has nothing to do with religion, however bad you might want it to be so it fits into your deluded world view...
How are things over in Antwerp?
Didn't you guys have to deal with Muslim riots yourselves a year or two ago because some old guy with mental problems killed his muslim neighbor?
I think it is a problem with Islam and I wouldn't be surpriised if they were getting some outside encouragement but I really doubt it's the CIA.