Why is the gold vault so heavily guarded?

Originally posted by valkeryie
But I think they are guarding an empty depository, so the world cannot find out that the USA cannot backup its dollar.

Actually we haven't been on a gold standard [gold backed dollar] for many years. One of JFK's last executive orders was to abolish the federal reserve and return the US to a gold-based standard. One of the first executive orders by Lyndon Johnson was to nullify JFK's. Since then the federal reserve pretty much just prints monopoly money hoping the world banks can hold everyhting together. Hence the US concern over nations switching to the Euro or other non-US standard.

Originally posted by otterbaby
Hi All--

Siriuslyone- You're always so elusive. You seem to know so much. And you always hold back. Everyone always asks you what you know and how do you know and you give an answer but, never really say what we want to know. You said 'alot of lives too young'.

How do you know this. Seriously...Sirius

you have us intrigued tell, tell, tell,...please!

Not at all, I give short answers, as for myself I will not read any post that goes on and one..I feel this is unnecessary and time is short, IMO, so let us put it all out there, minus the 'intellectual verbosity'.
A lot of lives too young goes for suicides,warring and just total indifference by the young people of this day.If a young person is in jail, or does not care one way or another, whose fault is that?
Not to mention, the lives of young, middle age, etc who have been murdered by the black ops in the last 50 years.

[edit on 6-11-2005 by siriuslyone]

IF Strange is correct and there is a demon in the vault, IMO, I hope it and it's cohorts get all the STUPID people who conjure up these spawns of evil.
They play with fire, and expect not to get burned.
I HAVE NO sympathy for conjurers, let them be torn to bits..
How simple is this.."if an entity can give you money, power, etc do you THINK you could be able to keep it under control like a pet dog? NADA

dont forget
fort knox is also a military base and it has a few hundred thousand troops trianing there and they have every sort of military equipment there so if u try to even step in a vault without authorization ull probaly get shot by a few hundred snipers before u even get in so just think about that

The majority of the gold used in international commerce is held in a vault beneath the Federal Reserve Building in New York. The vault is 80 feet below street level, contains 30% of the entire world's gold reserves, and is surrounded by solid bedrock, unlike the fictional representation of it in the movie Die Hard With A Vengeance.

In reality, it is one of the only structures capable of supporting the extreme weight of that much gold, and was engineered to do so. The gold is kept in cages labelled by nation, and the transfer of gold from one cage to another is often used in international transactions. A few floors up, at the currency exchange desk, 1/3 of the world's currency is traded every day, setting the values relative to the dollar.

The US currently owns 29% of the world's gold supply, and that is mainly held at Fort Knox and West Point. The value of that gold is just under $500 per citizen of the US.

[edit on 7-11-2005 by RogerKint]

Roger, did you get that info off the internet?

Because I think the USA owns 29 percent of the "monetized gold," and not that proportion of "all the gold in the world."

Which is a fairly important distinction.

After the original move, the BIS has occasionally altered the exact ounces that it considers to be "money," and which is merely a strategic and coveted soft metal.

The gold in Fort Knox, at least when the US was on the Gold Standard up until a little while ago, was the national store of gold. Its incredibly important, and requires massive securtiy.

Can you imagine for a moment what would happen if a militia hit up Fort Knox and made it out with the gold???

Originally posted by dr_strangecraft

Roger, did you get that info off the internet?

Because I think the USA owns 29 percent of the "monetized gold," and not that proportion of "all the gold in the world."

Which is a fairly important distinction.

After the original move, the BIS has occasionally altered the exact ounces that it considers to be "money," and which is merely a strategic and coveted soft metal.

I got the figures from a book I got at the Fed a few years ago. You are right, the figures I mentioned were in reference to stats on the "world's official monetary gold reserves" and the US holds 29% of this official supply. This is definitely different from "all the gold in the world," but to governments it stands as the stabilizing force on the world economy, especially in times of crisis.

I think it's important to note the extreme ratio between 1. the amount of gold backing the monetary system of the US has, and 2. the national debt per capita. Money is just paper and global digital flows, it's symbolic, it's an idea that relies on people believing in it for it to work. Doubt in the system, disbelief that a twenty dollar bill has more value than an 8x10 sheet of paper (the 8x10 would be much more of the material of exchange right?), could lead us down a very dark road- think Germany around the World Wars.

Gold is just a means of exchange as well, but it's value is backed by centuries of history and prestige, it's even been theorized that humans have an innate facinaton with the stuff. Even if the US government bought the entire gold supply, a mere fraction of its debt could be paid back. The US is just a great idea, it's a house of cards. And technically, it's bankrupt, and has been for a while. Whoops!

You sound like a colleague; someone "selling mirrors in the city of the blind."

I agree with the way you phrase it. While it is true that gold is inedible, and has bascially no "everyday" use for a consumer, it is still THE symbol of exchangeable weath.

Funny how our fiat financial system as tried to "fiat-ize" the commerce in gold.

I know that nothing has any "inherent value," since there is no such thing; imputed value is as close as we come.

Still, if the world-as-we-know-it were crashing down us, and somebody offered me a bunch of gold bricks for one of our cars, I'd sure take it (assuming I didn't expect to use the car).

I might also, if I was ahead of the flock in spotting Teotwawki, go out and borrow a bunch of money and buy necessities ..... and some gold oz, too!

I diddnt know it was illegal to take photos of the gold vault until me an a friend of mine were escorted of a golf corse for taking photos of the vault. Ill get the photos up in a few days when i get them developed.

Originally posted by TevashSzat
I diddnt know it was illegal to take photos of the gold vault until me an a friend of mine were escorted of a golf corse for taking photos of the vault. Ill get the photos up in a few days when i get them developed.

First of all, it is not illegal at all. If you were told it was, you were lied to. If you are not on government property, they cannot tell you not to take pictures unless there are clear messages posted otherwise. Think about Area 51 and nuclear testing sites, where miles away there are perimeters, well posted no-photography signs, like it would matter at that distance, and enforced control over access even to the land within sight of the base. If you can see the base, you are not going to be prevented from taking pictures unless you are highly suspect.

Second, you cannot see "the vault" from any exterior location to Fort Knox; it is underground, and very well protected. What you do see is a military base, like every other military base in America. Perhaps this one has a few extra security measures, but they all have multiple layers of security, they all have towers and well protected buildings. Fort Knox is no exception. There is no mine field surrounding it, that's completely illogical. There was once an attempt to rob the place by flying a helicopter into the lobby, and it failed miserably when the thieves found out the gold wasn't there and realized they were now trapped in the middle of a military base.

Further, our words are important in this time of confusion, and if the cookie does crumble, many of US here on ATS will be among the "educated" and "prepared." This will be because we have the ability to locate, disseminate, and pass on timely and important information. In the digital age, INFORMATION is the ultimate commodity, not gold. "They" will never be able to control information. There will never be an information exchange market or vault, but in crisis, information could be the deciding factor in individual survival. If anyone is trying to share it, please, just look over what you're saying first, then THINK about your words and whether they are productive or truthful.

wow

well the minefield is a pretty popular myth around here,so is the laser turrets and the snipers on the roof.

after talking to a friend of mine she has a pretty intresting theroy about the gold vault.1 mile below the gold vault is a vast underground base surrounding parts of meade,hardin,bullit, and jefferson counties. this base is actually the home base of the NWO and they are in league with the greys.People are being abducted and tested on so the NWO can build a vast army full of genetic super soldiers.the experiments and the finished soldiers are being held at the gold vault.

I'll admit, now you have me completely convinced. It all makes perfect sense. In fact, the Earth is hollow, there is a massive underground world where the greys, who are really clones of beings found on Mars by the Soviets during their first mission there in 1971, do not live, they are ENSLAVED. They are enslaved by the one family, the direct decendents of Adam and Eve, that in fact rules not just the world, but dictates all of reality itself. The entry points to their lair are Fort Knox, the Pyramids, the Vatican, and the back of the walk-in refrigerator in the back of the Carnegie Deli (what can I say... the greys love pastrami!). They have been silently ruling not just society, but feeding you the very thoughts in your mind through an elaborate machine they have dubbed "The Beast." This machine is made of, you guessed it, GOLD!

Around Fort Knox, they kidnap children some time around their 4th birthday and inject them with nano-robots, who immediately go to work at rewriting the DNA of every cell in their bodies during development. They are imbedded with an innate disregard for morality, truth, and logic. Some day soon, they will be called upon, called upon to guard "them" from "us," and they will not question.

Despite their conscience, despite their capacity for free thought and wonderment, despite their obvious belief that there is something to humanity worth saving, they will constantly be trapped, paranoid, and lost in a world that doesn't seem to be turning out the way they hoped it would. They will blame everyone but themselves and blindly become what they hate deep in the depths of their heart. I weep at their dehumanization, alienation, and exploitation. It's not their fault. They don't have a choice, they don't have any power. Who are they to think they could change the world? I wish they would open their eyes, realize the power of man, recognize that we all wish for a better world. The people, united, will never be defeated.

They may delay, but time will not. There is always hope.

Did you know that Fort-Knox has an area 51? Fort-knox has over 120 hunting areas and hunting area 51 is always closed. now they always have area closed for various reasons. wildlife management,training, and construction. but area 51 is always closed. infact its the only are that has an off limit sighn. so i think they train the genetic army in area 51.

Originally posted by dr_strangecraft

You sound like a colleague; someone "selling mirrors in the city of the blind."

I like to think we're all colleagues. My city sank into the sea a long time ago, but I try to shine light upon darkness and see what happens. This is met with varying results. In this case, I would have to agree- I can barely see for the fog before me. But regardless, I try. Nice to know there are others.

dr_strangecraft I searched for any referrence to the chalk line pentagon protest story you mentioned and couldn't fund any. I'm not doubting your claim, but was wondering if you know where I could find some more info?

Originally posted by warpboost
dr_strangecraft I searched for any referrence to the chalk line pentagon protest story you mentioned and couldn't fund any. I'm not doubting your claim, but was wondering if you know where I could find some more info?

I can't find it either. I read it; trying to remember where.

Article by Colin Anton Wilson?
Abbie Hoffman's Steal this Book! ? possibly.
Maybe some of Leary's writings?
Hunter S. Thompson?

It'd be in a book, definitely.

Not trustworthy, though. If it can't be found on the net. And I did a number of google searches.

Found a couple of references to it, but no authoritative quotes

moot all the way around. gold and silver won't mean a thing soon.
that nwo you all like to talk about is into depopulation by 1/3 to 1/2. thats 2 or 3 billion folks that are going to have to bite the dust. how?
well, there is an iluminati company [ did i say that?] called Vivendi. They control almost all the worlds fresh and waste water drinking systems. In america they are called US FILTER. sounds american but it isn't.

now, how do you suppose they are going to eliminate 2 or 3 billion folks in one day? yeah, the water, we all drink it or brush our teeth with it.

revelation talks about how in the end days that the first thing that will happen is that the water will be turned to blood [ unfit to drink-lethal.]

then we are going cashless. work for debits. cool huh?

Fort Knox is not just for gold. In times of war, the government also uses it to store important historic documents such as: the Declaration of independece, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. There is more to Fort Knox than just gold.

Tim

[edit on 10-11-2005 by ghost]

Originally posted by shot messenger
moot all the way around. gold and silver won't mean a thing soon.
that nwo you all like to talk about is into depopulation by 1/3 to 1/2. thats 2 or 3 billion folks that are going to have to bite the dust. how?
well, there is an iluminati company [ did i say that?] called Vivendi. They control almost all the worlds fresh and waste water drinking systems. In america they are called US FILTER. sounds american but it isn't.

now, how do you suppose they are going to eliminate 2 or 3 billion folks in one day? yeah, the water, we all drink it or brush our teeth with it.

revelation talks about how in the end days that the first thing that will happen is that the water will be turned to blood [ unfit to drink-lethal.]

then we are going cashless. work for debits. cool huh?

And they are going to contaminate all the oceans and lakes of the world how You could just start boiling salt water, lake or river water, melt snow or ice in climates that have it or start digging to the water table.