Originally posted by howmuchisthedoggy
Yes, Japanese Kanji script comes from Chinese script. So they do share that aspect of their language. You were mocking me? Why?
Because it is laughable to say they "share language". The US and England share language, China and Japan do not.
Oh Lordy. Someone explain this to him. Next.
Again, the Taliban formed in the early 90's...Please show me proof that WE backed them, not we backed Pakistan and they in turn backed the
Even if you did? I thought a second ago you were pretty sure you didn't? You never took Afghanistan over, duuuuude. Why are they talking of sending
troops back if the job hasn't been done yet? Oh wait a second, the US did remember to secure the pipelines and the poppy fields though. Get your
priorities straight anyway.
We didn't take it over? Excuse me?
Is that why Afghanistan has US forces all over it which are enforcing their new freely elected government?
Nope. Can't say I have. Is it famous in America? Is it like one of those "send in your money - get a degree" type colleges or one of those frat
party type affairs?
Niether... It's more like a "come here and run a fortune 500 company before you turn 40" type of schools.
For those that know of buisiness schools, it is usually considered the best, or at the very least one of the top 5 business schools in the
. It is "famous" not only in America, but the whole world.
Look it up, and see if you can or could get in.
Hooray for you! Pity about the karmic debt, though......
Now I have karmic debt?
As if you know me?
And if you are speaking of the US in general, well, I would opine that the US in it's history has comitted far less "wrongs" then most other
nations, seeing as how we are a nation of only 200 years.
Yep, never let the facts get in the way of a good rant.
Show me. Put up the facts. I am not arguing the point, I am just expressing my doubt. Show me the figures.
I'll concede you this excellent point. But I put this back to you. Why are you afraid of nuclear terrorism when no terrorist organisation has ever
detonated a nuclear device either? Do you really need to detonate a device to become a nuclear power?
The reasons are two fold.
1) Terrorists would not build the device themselves. They would obtain them from either a middle east nuclear power (Pakistan, Iran if they build
them, Iraq had we not invaded and allowed their nuclear program to continue). The other option for them would be on the black market after the
collapse of the USSR.
2) Nations are bound by the reality of nuclear retaliation and MAD. Terrorists do not have these concerns.
As for needing to detonate a nuclear device... Yes, if it is a home grown program.
Nations such as Isreal have Brittish, American, and or French made weapons, not home grown ones. Thus, they have proven systems.
There is a Weaponry Forum for these types of questions. I would rather not get into a debate about jets and missiles and crap with people clutching
the latest Janes Defence Weekly in their sweaty mitts, ready to jump on my back if I get the thrust pressure wrong or something.
But since you asked so earnestly, I will give you this. China is a big country. It has a well defended coastline. It can spread things around enough
to make the missions too costly and dangerous. It doesn't matter if you have the latest fandangled aircraft if they can't hit anything.
By the way you didn't answer my friendly fire question. Quid pro quo.
The extent of their land means nothing with the near limitless flight time that mid air refueling allows. Beyond that, air missions can be among the
most cost effective strikes you can make. A few hundred (or is it thousand?) dollars of fuel, and a bomb that costs 20,000 or so to take out a million
dollar+ building which supports other aspects of the enemies military.
In addition, US air strikes would not be very dangerous. As any honest knowledgeable person will tell you, the Chinese air force poses almost no
threat to the USAF. They have a lot of vintage 30 year old aircraft and not much else. They have little training. They have little in the way of
advanced detection systems.
The USAF would wipe the floor with them.
Then you have SAMs and AAA, which I am hoping you are refering to. I would like to point out two things.
First, in GWI, Iraq had one of the strongest air defence systems in the world - probably better then china
on a time relative basis. How many
aircraft did the US lose then? And remember, our two best aircraft (B-2 and F/A-22) were not used in that war.
Second, have you ever heard of the Jivet Joint? It is one of the most highly classified and important strategical assets in the whole world, yet most
people have never heard of it. These things really cut down on the effectiveness of ground based air defences. In fact, they make it nearly impossible
to even use them, as it exposes their position, and they just get blown up by cruise missles.
Also, you expressed your concern over Chinas vastness, yet fail to take into account the difficulties that come with defending such a great area. This
favors the US, not China, as it simply spreads China thin and creates gaps in their defences (which are further multiplied by US stealth
As for friendly fire, it happens in the fog of war, and since the US always sends in the most troops, it is usually going to be the US that commits
blue on blue.
Now take into account the vastly superior communications systems the US has and ask your self:
If the US has this much friendly fire with out superior training and equipment, how much would China commit with such poorly trained and equiped
Yes, good point. However you banded together like a flock of sheep and have been running around hither and thither wherever the sheepdog media barked
at you to make you go ever since. I wouldn't be very proud of that.
You and I see things a bit differently.
Now they might not put too much emphasis on reading in that University you go to, but I will refer you to the cliff notes of this discussion where I
pointed out the futility and improbability of a Chinese invasion of the US. Someone else brought it up and I reacted in a similar fashion to you, i.e.
greeting it with incredulity and derision.
Yeah, my Ivy league world renowned University doesn't put an emphasis on reading.
None the less, you made an argument for a chinese invasion - even with a footnote about how you didn't think it was likely, and thus I made a counter
Yes, I'm so lucky. Rainbows and chocolate rivers, gum drop trees. Common sense and a sense of humour, so take the ad hominem down a notch, okay bud?
You are making rediculous statements and more over taking every opertunity to insult my nation with snide remarks about how evil the US is and how
greedy Americans are.
If you want to joke around and have a nice discussion without any hostility from me, you are going to have to cut that out.