A turd truly is a turd, is a turd. But the message coming from that turd's mouth is a departure and a bit of a shock to American ears.
Absolutely. I agree 100%. That's why I refuse to take it at face value. I'm basically a cynic when it comes to believing our government has a
soul, or really ever had one, beyond that portrayed in all the various rhetoric.
I love the promises they make, the things they say, we all do. That's why there are no guillotines in the street. It's the accountability thing
that bugs me. Basically it doesn't matter what you say in public office, it matters what you do.
And on a different note, I perk my ears up everytime a politician stands up against the status quo and gets his message heard. This, to me, is an
indication that the politician has the blessings of his handlers, and whatever is said, whatever lead is set to be followed, has some ulterior motive,
or at the very least predictable results (this allows the handlers and those whose interests they represent stay one step ahead of everyone else, thus
I'm just so fed up with politics and the more than 200 years of bold-faced lies, I'm inclined to trust only myself and people I know personally.
Invariably history shows us that when a politician says "we're not doing X" they, in fact, are doing just that. History also teaches that most of
the time when a politician (or any powerful public figure, clergy, businessmen, etc.) says "we did X and we're sorry", what they're trying to do
is divert the attention of the people away from some larger, more complex issue.
I'm totally biased against politicians, I'm very open about that. I come from a political family, and I have personal as well as professional
experience dealing with that sect of society. There is, to be sure, a rotating crop of idealists, but they are almost always either a.) rendered
politically impotent by various methods, or b.) converted into shills for the true agenda.
If the system didn't have the balance provided by two parties, the people would invariably revolt every 15 or 20 years. This illusion of choice is
just another control mechanism. A few years ago people were speculating (and some still are) that Bush was going to declare himself president for
life or some nonsense. I scoffed at them then (and now) because that would be completely counterproductive to the agenda shared by his various
He was always intended to be a fall guy, a temporary straw man to divert attention and ease the transition into the next phase, which will presumably
be led by a man quite ostensibly different than Bush. Of course the agendas will be the same, but the tv watching public would never know, because
all they will ever hear is promises.
Short attention span takes care of the rest.
Another President on national television openly criticising a sitting President? Clinton hasn't even chimed in with a thing and he was almost brought
down by the Republicans. This is new, but it is also staged.
Clinton had the support of the CIA, which means he had the support of the Bush cabal, doesn't that follow?
There was a hint of animosity between this administration and elements of the CIA however...
There are some honest people in government, and in politics..it's just that we don't often hear from them..and when we do..I'm suspect.
The PTB couldn't of used Clinton to criticise Bush because Americans would dismiss it as revenge for the Lewinsky debacle. George Snr cant, Reagan's
dead so thats him out, so who does that leave the PTB to bring down a spent-force President? Thus propelling the Democrats into a landslide election
coming 2008? Carter
Yeah, that's how it struck me. Everybody respects the guy because of what he does with his time and his money these days. He's a genuinely likable
guy, heck even I like him and I barely like anyone.
The two parties play off each other like this, and not only keep independents out, but keep the American people constantly fighting amongst
themselves, instead of doing anything about the situation in Washington.
Now his comments are designed to railroad popular anger towards the Bush administration.
Seems like it. I wouldn't be surprised if the Democrats sweep moderate Republican votes by portraying Bush as a criminal mastermind, despite the
fact that I've heard chimps use a more versatile vocabulary.
The picture painted just doesn't fit, all the way round.
What led people to elect these criminals in the Frist place? (HA HA) Well, it's quite simple, the people elected the act, not the men. The act was
fine, it was specifically tailored to the audience, incorporating advertising expertise into a sort of brainwashing.
That's precisely why I won't trust Carter, or any other career politician. The facts don't speak to a lot of idealists remaining as such for long.
Mostly they move on or are incorporated into the plan in various ways. I'm pretty sure Carter is just following his script.
What would happen if Americans decided they have had their fill of wars now, pre-emptive or otherwise? Wouldn't that knacker any future manouvers for
resources by the PTB?
Yeah, it could, if people could remember what they had for breakfast, nevermind what the political machinations of 30 years ago were like. Look at
the evolution of media, whether music, film, photography, painting, it's evolved to be faster and faster paced, dragging the mind more quickly
between ideas, leaving less and less time for contemplation.
The television of today is basically just one long music video. Children raised in this environment develop...ADD or whatever variant. Makes for
easy votes, and apathetic voters, and a distracted populace. Politician's Heaven on Earth, basically.
Carter's comments shouldn't be ignored, shunned or ridiculed. They should be seized upon by those who know the comments are staged. They should be
hijacked from their intended goal by the decent folk of America and made into a weapon to bludgeon the old system the PTB have rended in twain. Carter
has shown America it is in trouble, he's done it in the hope they might jump out of the pan and into the fire. How about America jumps further and
lands on the bench. They've shown their underbelly now finish them off instead of being blinded by their partisan hypnotics.
Me personally, I'm a watcher, and a writer, not an activist. Whatever happens, I'll roll with it, it's my philosophy in action. My life and the
life of my family is more than enough to occupy my action. My thoughts on the other hand are always with the people of this country, and the people
of the world. We have the potential to make a paradise, to recreate the Garden of Eden. What we're doing is quite the opposite.
Basically I believe that if we make the world Hell, we deserve the torture of living in it. If we make it Eden, we deserve the fruits of our labors
(which will most likely precipitate yet another fall from grace). The same holds true for this country. Technologically we have the capability to
end poverty, hunger, homelessness, and most forms of cancer, but general apathy and outright hedonism allow these plagues to continue, and indeed, to
worsen year after year.
[edit on 5-11-2005 by WyrdeOne]