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reply posted on 18-9-2003 @ 11:48 PM by heelstone
I read that whole thing and it didn't prove to me anything. From what I've read, the guy is just spouting off every single possible religion and scientific theory and presenting them as some kind of reality. Like all good fiction, it presents the known and puts its own twist upon it. I however feel this guy drug up too many things into his NDE recountance and shot it to pieces as a result.

First he claims that all humans are part of a singular entity, then he says that humans are reincarnated to gather individuality, then he says that heaven(s) exist too. So what is it? Are people reincarnated or do they go to heaven or do they even have a choice or what? His story is everywhere and it destroys itself as a result.

He also says that animals have a group soul, but at some point go further and become higher beings. Yet he also says something about deer staying deer forever. That makes no sense, or perhaps my mind hasn't "expanded" enough to understand it. I think he's just pumping hot air around.

Everybody can't be right and all spiritual possibilities do not happen. There has to be a ground rule somewhere.

The supposed proof of this experience as being real is only in the first paragraph
when it mentions the guy being a part of a scientific research into "quantum biology". Which itself is no proof at all. Had he done something which makes actual waves in medical research, we would already be hearing about it. This happened to the man in 1982, and its been 21 years since that time.

It is my estimation that he is full of crap.

[Edited on 19-9-2003 by heelstone]


reply posted on 19-9-2003 @ 11:59 AM by SamaraMorgueAnn
This was an EXCELLENT find! Everyone should read this. Read, not skim over. This mans death experience is all of ours. Notice how he said in the article that not too many have been enquiring even about THE WHITE LIGHT when they meet it? OH MY goodness. Such it is...and therefore I am going to repaste some of the things said in that article so who ever reads this will click on the link and go read the whole experience. It is too filled with knowledge to miss. Gotta have it in your repertoire!
Even Reptilians need to be loved! hahehaheha!

Thank-you Thank-you once again ADONIA !!!
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"At any level, high or low, in whatever shape you are in, you are the most beautiful creation, you are.

I was astonished to find that there was no evil in any soul.

I said, "How can this be?"

The answer was that no soul was inherently evil. The terrible things that happened to people might make them do evil things, but their souls were not evil. What all people seek, what sustains them, is love, the light told me. What distorts people is a lack of love"

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"I learned that this galaxy, and all of the universe, is bursting with many different varieties of LIFE. I saw many worlds. The good news is that we are not alone in this universe! "

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"I saw that each and every little piece of creation has the power to create. It is very difficult to try to explain this. I am still speechless about this."

www.near-death.com...





reply posted on 19-9-2003 @ 01:36 PM by jammerman
Originally posted by heelstone
I read that whole thing and it didn't prove to me anything. From what I've read, the guy is just spouting off every single possible religion and scientific theory and presenting them as some kind of reality. Like all good fiction, it presents the known and puts its own twist upon it. I however feel this guy drug up too many things into his NDE recountance and shot it to pieces as a result.

First he claims that all humans are part of a singular entity, then he says that humans are reincarnated to gather individuality, then he says that heaven(s) exist too. So what is it? Are people reincarnated or do they go to heaven or do they even have a choice or what? His story is everywhere and it destroys itself as a result.

He also says that animals have a group soul, but at some point go further and become higher beings. Yet he also says something about deer staying deer forever. That makes no sense, or perhaps my mind hasn't "expanded" enough to understand it. I think he's just pumping hot air around.

Everybody can't be right and all spiritual possibilities do not happen. There has to be a ground rule somewhere.

The supposed proof of this experience as being real is only in the first paragraph
when it mentions the guy being a part of a scientific research into "quantum biology". Which itself is no proof at all. Had he done something which makes actual waves in medical research, we would already be hearing about it. This happened to the man in 1982, and its been 21 years since that time.

It is my estimation that he is full of crap.

[Edited on 19-9-2003 by heelstone]



Interesting that quantum mechanics and the theory of relativity cannot both be right even though they are both proven to be true. This made people take another look at what we think reality really is and String Theory was born. Just because we don't understand things fully does not prevent them from being true. Just something to think about.

Peace,

~Jammer


reply posted on 19-9-2003 @ 07:45 PM by TheBandit795
Originally posted by heelstone
How in the world is a human supposed to expect that if something lies beyond mortality that it is an infinite choice and/or no choice matter? I don't mind a couple of spiritual things being how it really works, but all of them cannot. Somebody is wrong and the afterlife has to work in only a set method. You can't have some people going to a heaven to see God at the same time others are reincarnated to evolve their spiritual knowledge. It don't work that way. Somebody is wrong. Somebody is right. There are no infinite options regarding a reality of the afterlife.


Why does the afterlife have to work in only a set method? Why can't it be in different ways at once? Why can't you have some people going to a heaven and others reincarnating??? We can't even begin to comprehend what happens when we are in the afterlife. What if bilocation is possible? What if time doesn't exist at all and everything is happening at the same moment (as they say)? What if you're going to heaven and reincarnating at the same time???

They say when you go into those realms you realize that you are not just heelstone alone, but that you are everything at the same time. So in fact you could be going to heaven and reincarnating at the same time. Even if a minute fraction of this is true, we're not able to comprehend it right now.

See it like this: All possibilities exist, even the ones anyone has thought about for a fraction of a second. That's what I've read on different locations variating from channeled material to quantum physics.

Once again. Right now, we can't comprehend what's goes on in the lesser dimentional frequencies. So who are we to say what's possible and what's not???


reply posted on 27-9-2003 @ 03:27 PM by Toltec
From Toltec
Posted on 27-9-2003 at 12:57 AM Post Number: 192208

Mellen-Thomas Benedict's near-death experience

A friend sent this to me recently today is the first chance I had to read it. I found it very interesting and well worth reading and considering.




Mellen-Thomas Benedict's is an artist who survived a near-death experience in 1982. He was dead for over an hour and a half after dying of cancer. At the time of his death, he rose up out of his body and went into the light. Curious about the universe, he was taken far into the remote depths of existence, and even beyond, into the energetic void of nothingness behind the Big Bang. During his experience, he was able to learn a great deal of information concerning reincarnation. Because of his near-death experience, he was able to bring back scientific discoveries. Mr. Benedict has been closely involved in the mechanics of cellular communication and research dealing with the relationship of light to life called Quantum Biology. This research is providing dramatic new perspectives on how biological systems work. Mr. Benedict has found that living cells can respond very quickly to light stimulation resulting in, among other things, high speed healing. He is a researcher, inventor and lecturer who holds six U.S. patents.


Rest of link...

NDE

Any thoughts?

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From unclelester
Posted on 27-9-2003 at 02:23 AM Post Number: 192283


First off, a search of US patents issued from 1976 to present shows that no one named Mellen-Thomas Benedict, Mellen Benedict, or thomas Benedict holds any patents at all. www.uspto.gov...
It seems doubtful that his patents would have been issued pre-1976 because the story indicates that his "experience" happened in 1982.
On a more personal note, he's selling a book that espouses, "light healing", which I've never seen any scientific evidence of, and seems to be one of the New Age movements growth industries right now. Anyone that asks you to believe his or her story, and then tries to sell you a book about it always raises a red flag for me.
Other than that, it's an interesting story.

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Posted by Toltec

Posted on 27-9-2003 at 03:32 AM Post Number: 192377



Searching 1790 to present...


Results of Search in 1790 to present db for:
IN/Benedict-Mellen-Thomas: 7 patents.
Hits 1 through 7 out of 7






People who right books do so also because they believe in the relevance of the material.

It seems a point to be taken into consideration with respect to his experience, is in-fact currently receiving a lot of attention.

Neither link is related to the new age

www.bcs.org.uk...

www.psrast.org...

Any thoughts?

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Posted by Bandit

Posted on 27-9-2003 at 07:19 PM Post Number: 192906

Toltec where did you find the patents??? On that .gov site???

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Posted by groingrinder

Posted on 27-9-2003 at 07:31 PM Post Number: 192913

Wow, what an incredible read! I cannot thank you enough for posting this!!

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Ok as is apparent I have transferred the information from my post to this one, the other will be deleted.

Bandit go to the site and click on the area that has the words "Search Patents". You will be taken to another screen where on the left hand side in green will be an area under the heading of "Issued Patents (PatFT) (full-text since 1976, full-page images since 1790)"

Click on the item identified as "advanced search"This will take you to the operant screen. Instructions with respect to how to search under a name explain the letters IN for Inventor name must be placed in the query box. Select the years you want to review and hit search.

For the record completed another search from only 1976 to present these were the results.



Searching 1976 to present...

Results of Search in 1976 to present db for: IN/Benedict-Mellen-Thomas: 7 patents. Hits 1 through 7 out of 7





As mentioned the subject of Quantum Biology is on the forefront in regards to current thinking, the attached sites presents more information.

www.beyond-the-illusion.com...




[Edited on 27-9-2003 by Toltec]
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