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"Nobody can predict what nature's imagination can do, so we have to be prepared," Dr. David Butler-Jones, Canada's chief public health officer, told a news conference in Ottawa.
"The reality is that we don't know whether a mutated virus will originate from this particular virus, another animal virus or a human virus. This doesn't change the need for our advance planning and preparation in order to minimize the impact."
* Though they were taken to a much higher extreme, many of Hitler's early racial policies were taken word for word from American eugenics policies. ...Some of the Nazi “racial hygiene laws”, such as the Act for Averting Descendants with Hereditary Diseases, were based on eugenic theory and policy that was popular in North America.
* In the 1860s in British Colombia, first, Chinese immigrants and aboriginal peoples, and later, "Hindus" and Japanese were * denied the right to vote.
* 1931 At this time, over thirty American states, as well as parts of Canada, have compulsory sterilization laws in place. People diagnosed as alcoholic, epileptic, mentally ill, sexually deviant or feeble minded where potential candidates.
* An independent (Canadian) MP named A.W. Neill was something of a star in these debates. In 1936 he argued against Japanese enfranchisement, saying a petition from the affected community was "sob stuff" and "claptrap," and "Canada must remain white."
* 1948: The United Nations’ Universal Declaration of Human Rights proclaimed: "Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, birth or other status;" and "Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family."
Eugenics and the new genetics.Eugenics
Euge nics History
The Joseph and Rose Kennedy Institute of Ethics
Bill C-407 Legalizes All Types of Assisted Suicide
Schadenberg points out that Bill C-407:
• Legalizes euthanasia and assisted suicide for people suffering chronic physical and mental pain. Chronic physical and mental pain can be treated.
• Does not require that a person at least try effective treatments for their chronic physical or mental pain. It states that a person qualifies for euthanasia even if they have refused to try effective treatments
• Legalizes euthanasia and assisted suicide for people who "appear to be lucid" and doesn’t define what appear to be lucid means.
• Allows anyone to euthanize or assist the suicide of a person, so long as they are "assisted by a medical practitioner"
14 September 2004: The World Health Organization (WHO) has urged countries to put in place preventive measures and enhance preparedness ready for the possible re-emergence of SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) and avian influenza A (H5N1) in humans. ...avian influenza A(H5N1), hit at least nine countries in Asia in early 2004. The virus has the potential to jump from birds to humans. Most countries, however, lack comprehensive programmes to prevent animal-to-human transmission of zoonotic diseases.
May 26, 2005 (CIDRAP News) Summary – The British magazine Nature trained a floodlight on the threat of an influenza pandemic today with a collection of 10 articles that explore the danger and possible remedies and demand a more serious global response.
May 26 Nature, with links to articles and commentaries on bird flu
'Controlling avian flu at the source'
Global agricultural authorities should harmonize with the public-health sector to ensure the exchange of flu virus samples, and establish a single international standard for vaccines that could reduce viral loads below the transmissible level, say Robert Webster and Diane Hulse.
The threat to humanity is right next door
...the apocalyptic eventuality that keeps some health experts awake at night is a global human flu pandemic. This would make last year’s tsunami look like a storm in a teacup. Billions infected. Tens of millions dead. Mass panic. Mass chaos. Hospitals overloaded. Food stocks dwindling. The global economy in a wreck as trade drops. Communities closing doors to outsiders. The army taking over?. Get the picture?
The next effort will look humane by comparison
Believe it or not, there’s something worse than the worst euthanasia legislation in the world. ...The worst euthanasia legislation is the one that’s currently before Parliament. Bill C-407 would provide practical carte blanche to kill anyone, anytime, for any reason. ...Bill C-407 is so bad that even the federal justice minister is opposed to it. One hopes and prays that members of Parliament will have no difficulty seeing this monstrosity for what it is and reject it without hesitation. ...Bill C-407 does, however, have one thing going for it. The carnage it would bring about is so obvious that the only way it could be supported is through hopeless naivete or wilful callousness. ...On the other hand, once it’s defeated, more euthanasia legislation will eventually be introduced, as surely as day follows night, and the next bill probably won’t be so transparently deficient. Indeed, Bill C-407 might almost be described as a backdoor attempt to introduce euthanasia in Canada. It’s so glaringly bad that the next effort will look humane by comparison.
Fatalities from H5N1 Bird Flu are projected to be 50%, but more to the point, many infected survivors will suffer chronic debilitation and disability.
Originally posted by Astronomer68
I see absolutely nothing wrong with allowing people suffering from some medical condition that is killing them--and there is no hope of remission or a cure--from committing suicide. One of our western states currently has such a law. BTW, I don't see any tie-in to Avian Flu whatsoever.
Originally posted by deluded
Originally posted by Astronomer68
I see absolutely nothing wrong with allowing people suffering from some medical condition that is killing them--and there is no hope of remission or a cure--from committing suicide.
I couldn't agree more! Get the heck outta my life people! I didn't see anything in this article about murdering people. Did you?
Originally posted by Astronomer68
One of our western states currently has such a law. BTW, I don't see any tie-in to Avian Flu whatsoever.
Originally posted by FredT
One of the curses of our advanced medical system is the ability to keep people alive for quite sometime even if they have no hope of a meaningfull recovery.
THe life at all costs or for life's sake attitute has to change before the healthcare system collapses.
Originally posted by soficrow
[IMO - that is a myth. Pure spin. Most people cannot afford the cost of diagnosis, never mind the wonders of modern scientific miracle cures.
Originally posted by FredT
No myth I see it on a daily basis in the ICU's If treatment is agressive, an ICU can keep people alive even if there is no hope for a meaninfull recover. I have seen this time and time again.
Given a ventallator, anitbiotics, inotropic medication, chemistry replacement etc. you might be surprised
Originally posted by Solidus Snake
THIS IS THE MOST OBVIOUS ATTEMPT TO DEPOPULATE THE WORLD I HAVE EVER SEEN! WAKE UP PEOPLE THE NEW WORLD ORDER IS IN FULL FORCE!
Originally posted by LazarusTheLong
I don't see this as opening up a "we can't fix you, so you might as well kill yourself" issue... unless it is truly a situation where the best medical science can't provide some relief of suffering to help make life worth living.
Originally posted by wecomeinpeace
The Bill would have to have been drafted before the Ottawa Bird Flu summit, so there being a connection between the failure of the summit to meet its objective and the emergence of this proposed legislation is debatable and seems a tad outlandish, but certainly not impossible.
The concept of proceeding legislation passing easily because "the next Bill will seem humane by comparison" is very valid. The frog in the pot analogy is ever appropriate when illustrating the way TPTB manipulate public and parliamentary thought.
I wonder, Sofi, have you done any research on what the debilitating effects suffered by Bird Flu survivors would be? It would be nice to pick your brain on that one.
If Avian Flu does indeed reach the epic, global pandemic proportions that are being alluded to, with 50+% gone, and many more possibly debilitated, the greatest problem facing the globe will be the total meltdown of society into either a) complete anarchy and a return to the stone age, or b) a nightmare police state. If option (b) is the deal (or the plan), then legislation such as this would come in very handy for getting rid of the "useless eaters" lying in hospital beds, or simply unable to work/contribute, and chewing up valuable and scarce resources. And in a situation such as that, I think that public opposition to such moves would be effectively zero, assuming that the public have any say in anything at all by that stage. A nightmare scenario for sure.
So how long has the euthanasia debate been ongoing in Canada? Has this legislation come suddenly out of left field, or is it a natural progression of previous wranglings?
The social and economic origins of genetic determinism: a case history of the American Eugenics Movement, 1900-1940 and its lessons for today.
Allen GE. Department of Biology, Washington University, St. Louis, MO 63130-4899, USA.
Eugenics, the attempt to improve the genetic quality of the human species by 'better breeding', developed as a worldwide movement between 1900 and 1940. It was particularly prominent in the United States, Britain and Germany, and in those countries was based on the then-new science of Mendelian genetics. Eugenicists developed research programs to determine the degree in which traits such as Huntington's chorea, blindness, deafness, mental retardation (feeblemindedness), intelligence, alcoholism, schizophrenia, manic depression, rebelliousness, nomadism, prostitution and feeble inhibition were genetically determined. Eugenicists were also active in the political arena, lobbying in the United States for immigration restriction and compulsory sterilization laws for those deemed genetically unfit; in Britain they lobbied for incarceration of genetically unfit and in Germany for sterilization and eventually euthanasia. In all these countries one of the major arguments was that of efficiency: that it was inefficient to allow genetic defects to be multiplied and then have to try and deal with the consequences of state care for the offspring. National socialists called genetically defective individuals 'useless eaters' and argued for sterilization or euthanasia on economic grounds. Similar arguments appeared in the United States and Britain as well. At the present time (1997) much research and publicity is being given to claims about a genetic basis for all the same behaviors (alcoholism, manic depression, etc.), again in an economic context--care for people with such diseases is costing too much. There is an important lesson to learn from the past: genetic arguments are put forward to mask the true--social and economic--causes of human behavioral defects.
From Mirage of Health. Epilogue, WORLD PERSPECTIVES
It is the thesis of World Perspectives that man is in the process of developing a new consciousness which, in spite of his apparent spiritual and moral captivity, can eventually lift the human race above and beyond the fear, ignorance, and isolation which beset it today.
...Man has entered a new era of evolutionary history, one in which rapid change is a dominant consequence. He is contending with fundamental change, since he has intervened in the evolutionary process.
...Virtually all of our disciplines have relied on conceptions which are now incompatible with the Cartesian axiom, and with the static world view we once derived from it. For underlying the new ideas, including those of modern physics, is a unifying order, but it is not causality; it is purpose, and not the purpose of the universe and of man but the purpose in the universe and in man. In other words, we seem to inhabit a world of dynamic process and structure. Therefore we need a calculus of potentialitity rather than one of probability, a dialectic of polarity, one in which unity and diversity are defined as simultaneous and necessary poles of the same essence.
There were many rumors of death, mayhem, and abandonment in New Orleans in the days after Hurricane Katrina. One of those rumors was that doctors and nurses were euthanizing patients in the city's hospitals. Many of the rumors and accusations in the aftermath of the hurricane proved unfounded, but today, more than a year after the disaster, a doctor and 2 nurses stand accused of killing patients on the long-term acute-care ward of the city's Memorial Medical Center.
By all accounts, the conditions at the hospital were horrendous. Surrounded by water, with no electricity, no plumbing, dwindling food supplies, temperatures above 100°F, no contact with the outside world, and patients who could not be easily evacuated, the doctors and nurses of Memorial faced daunting circumstances, to say the least. They must have felt that they were doomed.
It's for the courts to decide the truth of what happened during those 4 agonizing days, but one thing is certain if the reporting of National Public Radio is to be believed: Discussions of whether to resort to euthanasia did take place among the medical staff, even before the hurricane hit. Which brings us to a question well worth considering: Are there circumstances so horrible that euthanasia is the only just course of action?
Preparing for a bird flu epidemic
Noted virologist Robert G. Webster believes avian flu has the potential for an influenza pandemic rivaling the one in 1918 that killed an estimated 40 million persons worldwide.
If H5N1 mutates, Dr. Webster suggests unvaccinated persons stockpile dry food and medicine and head for the hills for three months.
He also warns Americans not to count on the federal government if the avian flu hits. "If this killer virus hits, the country's infrastructure will fall apart. The hospitals will be overloaded. Most of us don't realize how interdependent we are for food," he told AARP. "In a pandemic, people would get sick, the gasoline supply would stop, food would not be there."