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Originally posted by The_Camel
And no matter what you say ...... people in the US dont have life as good as people in many countries have. Freedom ..? yeah, what ever ..... I suppose you still believe in the home of the brave too? Last time I looked Panama, Grenada, Kosovo and Somalia were bitter bitter fights between an elephant and an ant. I guess taking on a bunch of lightly armed street thugs is brave. I mean seriously ..... when did 'the brave' actually win a war without help ..... or step up to the plate with the rest of the world to fight a "real" war like WWI and WWII
They ran in Vietnam. They ran in Somalia. They drew Korea. And were THE very LAST country to step foward to Fight the Fight of Freedom in WWI and WWII ...... Well is that brave or guilt, about staying home and hiding under your bedcovers?
Brave??? Huh ..... timid Bullies!!
Originally posted by Amethyst
I think for now our freedom is just an illusion.
A lot of this stuff the government is pulling is basically a way of getting their foot in the door. A lot of people don't seem to care that the Bill of Rights is being trounced on (as long as it doesn't affect them, right?)...but it'll bite you in the rear sooner or later.
Originally posted by SkyChild_5
Let's think of this in a more simplistic way. The Bill Of Right's says we have the right to bare arms. But yet, state by state are electing just the opposite. Those of us that smoke. Took our rights away years ago and getting worse day by day in the area's we are allowed to smoke. Seperation of Church and State. It use to be that way yes. Now if you'll notice they are talking down anything and everything that even resembles a biblical nature from everywhere you look. The VA hospital in my area had an Angel on top about 2 years ago. The City made them take it down due to protest. Although I am of Ralien belief, I still don't have to agree with that. Your right to free speech. OK, must admit, although I am not totally against war itself, I am against the war in Iraq. But, that in itself is a different issue. Look at Cindy Sheehan. A perfect portrate of feedom of speech. But yet they could not wait for the chance to arrest her for a sit in. Just look at all the things we use to take for grated and have full raine over and we don't anymore. Now they can take you house away at the blink of an eye with no far chance just to build something structural that would boost the towns ecomomy. These are just a few of the simple things we don't think about.
Originally posted by SkyChild_5
Let's think of this in a more simplistic way. The Bill Of Right's says we have the right to bare arms.
Originally posted by Chakotay
Why did the colonists suddenly get the thirst for freedom when they arrived on these shores?
Monkey see, monkey do. We Native Americans lived free.
The colonists wanted that. So they rebelled, and tried to imitate our way of life. Read about the Iroquois origins of the US Constitution if you doubt it.
The problem is, they massacred us and hid the survivors away on reservations. Our way of life became invisible to the mainstream.
If you want freedom, weigh every decision with this thought in mind:
Originally posted by SimJazz
I think that we are only as free as we (a collective nation) allow ourselves to be. We live in a democracy yet as a people we are so split that we rob freedom from ourselves.