Originally posted by SkyChild_5
Let's think of this in a more simplistic way. The Bill Of Right's says we have the right to bare arms. But yet, state by state are electing just the
opposite. Those of us that smoke. Took our rights away years ago and getting worse day by day in the area's we are allowed to smoke. Seperation of
Church and State. It use to be that way yes. Now if you'll notice they are talking down anything and everything that even resembles a biblical nature
from everywhere you look. The VA hospital in my area had an Angel on top about 2 years ago. The City made them take it down due to protest. Although I
am of Ralien belief, I still don't have to agree with that. Your right to free speech. OK, must admit, although I am not totally against war itself,
I am against the war in Iraq. But, that in itself is a different issue. Look at Cindy Sheehan. A perfect portrate of feedom of speech. But yet they
could not wait for the chance to arrest her for a sit in. Just look at all the things we use to take for grated and have full raine over and we don't
anymore. Now they can take you house away at the blink of an eye with no far chance just to build something structural that would boost the towns
ecomomy. These are just a few of the simple things we don't think about.
Skychild, belated welcome to ATS. I agree with you totally. As a matter of fact, I started a thread a while back, very similar to what you are
Things Are Definately Changing......
Anyway, I've been sort of busy lately, and haven't been spending as much time on ATS as I like to. But, I read all of the posts/replies that you
guys have made so far, and I think that most of you have raised some very valid points. Made me realize though, that I should have been a bit more
clear in my original post.
First of all, my lame attempt at humor: something to the effect that the only things that were ever free were water from drinking fountains, and
matches. Well, like I say, it was pretty lame. I shouldn' have put it in there, or at least a
afterward might have cleared it up.
But mainly, when I said that I don't think that this country has ever been free, I left out something important, which many of you filled in for me.
That is the fact that I also don't believe in 100% free. I don't think that people should be allowed to run around murdering, raping, stealing,
vandalizing, etc. I agree that there do have to be some laws. However, I think that those laws should be limited to crimes which have a victim. No
one should do anything to harm another person or their property. Absolutely not. That would make no one feel free to go outside, everyone would
always be looking over their shoulder, etc... That is even a lesser freedom.
What I was talking about, are all the restrictions that are put on us, which cause us to make constant changes in our lifestyles that we normally
wouldn't. We smokers don't need government to tell us where we can and can't smoke. We can be curtous to non-smokers and not smoke close to them.
We are adults, we don't need to be supervised like children.
I mean, we should be able to choose our own idividual lifestyles, as long as what we do does not harm another in any way. We should be able to fly
the airlines without being treated like terrorists, just because we are traveling.
As far as separations of Church and State, I think that is(was) a good thing. It didn't mean that people could not still practice the religion of
their choice, inside of an appropriate place, a church, mosque, temple, etc....
Now, this "Intelligent Design", I don't even know what to say. It is about the most ridiculous thing......well, there are a lot of ridiculous
things going on, but, it is definately up there. And, people getting so picky about whether when children say the Pledge of Allegiance in school,
they say the word "God". I mean, come on. It might cross the line of Separation of Church and State, but it's just one little word in a saying
that has been around since the beginning of America. As far as I know, there isn't a session of bible study afterward or anything. Why must people
pick so much!
Think about the big things. Why do we still have a president in power who, despite his Veterans Day Speech to the contrary, lied to Congress and the
American People in order to gain their support of a war that is literally senseless. It took a long time for many to see this, but now, AFAIK, the
ones who still approve of him and the war, are those who are profiting from it.
Anyway, didn't mean to get off the track. Just really wanted to correct myself regarding what I really meant when I said "free". And that was
that "free" to me does not include letting murders, etc.. run around unchecked.