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posted on Nov, 2 2005 @ 02:41 PM
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For those people who say that were creating a weapons nuclear program and that were going to nuke U.S or Israel. We all know thats not going to happen and as long as we are monitered than theres nothing to worry about. I think U.S and Israel should keep it cool and bush even knows if he attacks than we'll start our nuclear weapons program so you should ask yourself, who is it to blame that were going nuclear for the bomb if we were to be invaded?.

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posted on Nov, 2 2005 @ 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by NR
For those people who say that were creating a weapons nuclear program and that were going to nuke U.S or Israel. We all know thats not going to happen and as long as we are monitered than theres nothing to worry about. I think U.S and Israel should keep it cool and bush even knows if he attacks than we'll start our nuclear weapons program so you should ask yourself, who is it to blame that were going nuclear for the bomb if we were to be invaded?.

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Bush and Isreal? You do realize its much more than just those two speaking up about this right?


NR

posted on Nov, 2 2005 @ 02:46 PM
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EU didnt want to be part of it but since bush probably begged they had no choice and whats it there to complain about? i never knew electricity was such a big threat to the world.



posted on Nov, 2 2005 @ 02:47 PM
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France, England, Germany to name a few more. Most of the UN nations have spoke up agaisnt Irans nuclear work in fact. But NR doesnt name those nations because it detracts from the focus of his agenda.


NR

posted on Nov, 2 2005 @ 02:50 PM
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I can also name alot of countrys that are by our side but lets not go discussing the same thing over again. We showed everything to the U.N and still no proof of any weapons program, this stops out any sanctions or a cold chance of military strikes.



posted on Nov, 2 2005 @ 03:15 PM
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Looks like Italy is concerned over Irans nukes too:

Italian Foreign Minister:



Jerusalem/Rome, November 1 - Italian Foreign Minister Gianfranco Fini said on Tuesday the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) should refer Iran to the UN Security Council over its controversial nuclear programme .

Speaking in Jerusalem after talks with his Israeli counterpart Silvan Shalom, Fini said the issue was extremely pressing following Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's call for the destruction of Israel .

Ahmadinejad's remark last Wednesday that Israel "should be wiped off the map" was a "terrifying threat", said Fini .

"I think the entire international community must keep its guard up to ensure that Iran does not produce nuclear warheads as this would be a high-risk scenario for humanity," he added




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posted on Nov, 2 2005 @ 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by skippytjc
France, England, Germany to name a few more. ...

Buy an atlas!



posted on Nov, 2 2005 @ 04:57 PM
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NR

quit trying to make excuses for Iran's nuclear program. Your country is hellbent on destroying Israel but you won't........time and time again Israel defeats it's muslim enimes......remember...the smaller the dog the bigger the bark. and your country is going to be attacked.....sometime this year or in the early months of 2006. We already have special ops in your country.



posted on Nov, 2 2005 @ 05:16 PM
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It does not take a rocket scientist to realize that this gesture means nothing in terms of not hidding nuclear weapons program.

So they (Iranian military) opened up and showed an area/base which has no relations to your nuclear weapons program-what does that prove-NOTHING.

People who hide these things are supposed to be very smart, if even I can see through this-PLEASE!

I also understand that the real nuclear weapons production areas are under the major cities, so to get to it, there will have to be a great loss of civilian life.



posted on Nov, 2 2005 @ 05:29 PM
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Iran needs to give full and open access to everything if they are going to convince Europe that they don't have a nuclear weapons program.

As far as who is most worried about Irans nuclear weapons, try this on for size:

1) Isreal
2) Italy
3) France
4) Spain
5) UK





6) US

Why? they are the ones within range of Iranian missles. The US is not. The US is taking a back seat on this one NR - Europe are the ones you have to worry about, because you best understand, they won't mind asking the US for help in taking out Iran if they don't play ball.



posted on Nov, 2 2005 @ 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by American Mad Man
Iran needs to give full and open access to everything if they are going to convince Europe that they don't have a nuclear weapons program.


- Hang on AMM, 'Europe' is not acting anything like you imagine.

We are perfectly happy to go down the road of inspection and cooperation, our problem is a US administration that at almost every turn insists that conditions are not harsh enough and who keep upping the ante on this matter.


Why? they are the ones within range of Iranian missles.


- True and yet the tone of those supposedly the most 'threatened' could hardly be more different to that of the USA, hmmmm?


The US is not.


- The US sees the Iranian 'threat' in terms of stopping them subdue Iraq completely and hence the entire region.
That is why the US is going along with these absurd ideas of an Iranian nuclear threat to Europe.


The US is taking a back seat on this one


- Yaeh but only because Iraq has become the mess it is and even Bush's crowd can see a benefit in Europe taking the fall for a diplomatic failure (caused in the main by US demands and conditions they want to try and impose knowing full well Iran will tell the US to get lost).


Europe are the ones you have to worry about, because you best understand, they won't mind asking the US for help in taking out Iran if they don't play ball.


- Yet Europe couldn't be further from any such laughable notions if we tried AMM.

'We' have the capability to defend ourselves from nuclear attack, we have the retaliatory capability in kind but you will not hear any great European enthuisiasm for this suggested war or any significant call from Europe to "take out Iran".

Funny that, eh?


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posted on Nov, 2 2005 @ 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
- Hang on AMM, 'Europe' is not acting anything like you imagine.

We are perfectly happy to go down the road of inspection and cooperation, our problem is a US administration that at almost every turn insists that conditions are not harsh enough and who keep upping the ante on this matter.


No, your problem is Iran running in circles, and showing you the right hand and not the left. The US isn't your problem at all. We are letting the self righteous Europeans handle this one, and as is par for the course, they have gotten no where thus far.



- True and yet the tone of those supposedly the most 'threatened' could hardly be more different to that of the USA, hmmmm?


In case you haven't been paying attention, our governments 'tones' have been one in the same, Sminkey. Both Europe and the US consider a nuclear capable Iran a threat, and both have advocated diplomacy as the first choice and military action as the second.



- The US sees the Iranian 'threat' in terms of stopping them subdue Iraq completely and hence the entire region.
That is why the US is going along with these absurd ideas of an Iranian nuclear threat to Europe.


Absurd?

So the US is just playing along for it's own reasons and the European governments are so dim-witted they see a threat that isn't there?



- Yaeh but only because Iraq has become the mess it is and even Bush's crowd can see a benefit in Europe taking the fall for a diplomatic failure (caused in the main by US demands and conditions they want to try and impose knowing full well Iran will tell the US to get lost).


So Europe is going to fail because of the US, even though the US isn't involved?


Bottom line is, if Europe doesn't take care of buisness, the US will. If they pussy foot around like Europeans seem to always do, the US will be compelled to go hard-line with Iran. If Europe gets a deal in place so there is no way for Iran to develope nukes, then the US will say "good job" and that will be the end of it.



- Yet Europe couldn't be further from any such laughable notions if we tried AMM.


Then you know less about European politics on this subject then I do Sminkey. Believe it or not, you guys are just as likely to go in guns-a-blazing as we are Sminkey.


'We' have the capability to defend ourselves from nuclear attack


No, you do not Sminkey. You have no anti-missle system, and as terrorism acts of the past half century have shown, you have no defence against a terrorist style nuclear attack.



we have the retaliatory capability in kind


That you do, though I doubt Europe has the will to retaliate


but you will not hear any great European enthuisiasm for this suggested war or any significant call from Europe to "take out Iran".


BS. I have friends from Scotland, Ireland, Spain, and Germany that dissagree with your opinion.

Any way, you will not hear any great enthusiam from Americans about invading Iran either - just the willingness to accept that it may be a needed action.

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posted on Nov, 4 2005 @ 04:46 AM
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Originally posted by American Mad Man
No, you do not Sminkey. You have no anti-missle system, and as terrorism acts of the past half century have shown, you have no defence against a terrorist style nuclear attack.

Nethier do you, your ABMS is not finished and you only have what 3 747's with lasers on them?
We have defence against terrorism, its called MI5.
We have foiled attempts before but not nuclear, the US nethier has a nuclear defence program ethier.




That you do, though I doubt Europe has the will to retaliate

If we were nuked, we would retaliate.



BS. I have friends from Scotland, Ireland, Spain, and Germany that dissagree with your opinion.

Then your friends are in the minority, I live in both scotland and england. Netheir want another war.


Any way, you will not hear any great enthusiam from Americans about invading Iran either - just the willingness to accept that it may be a needed action.
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Really?
Hmm guess that all those guys saying "see you in terhan" where just "Accepting that we WILL go there"?



posted on Nov, 4 2005 @ 06:03 AM
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How many times now has the US administration claimed intel showing Iran has a nuclear weapons program, only to have Iran show inspectors/journalists around the alleged plant to show they don't?

It would be laughable if it were not for the fact that some seem to want bloodshed at any cost

It's the Iraq game all over again, crank up the propaganda machine, whip the backers into shape (Blair, Berlusconi, Howard etc...) and unleash some shiny new missiles. Proof does not come into the equation, as we now know, they can always say they were duped by bad intel, the sheeple will fall for that one again



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