Russian TU-160 Blackjack..

Yeah they were. I think they had some experts make up that model for Revel or Italieri?

Whichever company it was, I cant remember anymore.

My bad. By Mig-41 I mean the NGRF. The current Mig and Sukhoi designations are extremely confusing.

Here it is: the Mig-35 or 1.42.

www.fas.org...

The Mig-35 is also sometimes called the Mig-39. I have no idea why.

The Mig-35's engines are AL41F turbofans, while the S-37 and Su-37 both have Al-37FU turbofans. However, there appears to be a slight difference in thrust between the S-37 and Su-37. The powerplants have the same designation but are they really identical? The thrust difference could be due to intake design.

Speaking of thrust, does anybody here know what's become of the Yak-141?


[Edited on 20-9-2003 by Lampyridae]

I have heard that JSF by Lockheed is using some Yak-141 'Freestyle' tech:s as Yakolev has made some deals with Lockheed.

yup yakovlev sold the engines from the yak-141 to lockheed, i heard that yakovlev making a new yak-41 [upgraded yak-141] and also they are helping with the PAK-FA along with mig and sukhoi [russian 5th gen aircraft]

[Edited on 20-9-2003 by SectorGaza]

I think that freestyle refers to non-fixed wing. But the JSF for Lockheed, the x-35, is fixed wing. Does anyone know what freestyle refers to?

'Freestyle' is NATO code for Yak-141..

Yak-141 is like Harrier or the wnb JSF..

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Yakolev Yak-141 Freestyle

[Edited on 20-9-2003 by FULCRUM]

[Edited on 21-9-2003 by Zion Mainframe]

your wrong fulcrum, the JSF wasnt even on the drawing board when the yak-141 was made, so its cant be a jsf wannabe unless lockheed got a time machine

What logic are you using? a womans logic perhaps?

I ment that JSF is wnb..

JSF is wnb.

It is yet to materialise, and wants to be like Yak-141, so JSF is a wnb Yak-141.

Do you follow?

oh i thought that you said that the yak-141 is a jsf wannabe

It is no real secret that the JSF team was talking to Russian designers. It was only logical to. They used that type of lift before.

I hear BAe and Rolls Royce are also helping with the JSF. The other JSF, the X-32, used VTOL technology that was more similar to the Harrier.

Well,

X-32 is dead..

X-35 is 'the chosen one'.



Seems like Yakolevs techs were better..