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Originally posted by siddharthsma
Therefore, it is almost like our Electro-magnetic world may be a small segment of a greater Universe !
Originally posted by otterbaby
This is very interesting to me to. I have a book about '___' and the spirit. It is also interesting to note that not only do people taking it have similar experiences but, also people who have been naturally delusional (like from excess dopomine -psychotic mania or post-partem psychosis) They all have the same delusions. I think they access a part of the brain that is otherwise dormant or not used. (?) What do you think. Like delusional people all have them about God or Jesus or the Devil or the FBI or Government. Isn't that unusual since there's millions of other things people could be delusional about?
Originally posted by siddharthsma
This is an idea that I recently got, and it seems very interesting to me .
I believe we live in a Electro-magnetic orientated Universe ie. we see, hear, smell, eat and touch electro- magnetic radiation. We as human beings are only able to interact with dimensions associated with the Electro-magnetic world. Even our time is just the bending of Electro-magnetic pathways. Our Science is based on what we expereinece around us.
[edit on 2-11-2005 by siddharthsma]
Originally posted by Cicada
If the universe is an electromagnetic vibration, then perhaps there are other universes vibrating at higher and lower frequencies.
Originally posted by otterbaby
This is in answer to FallenOne. Hi. Yes. The book was very interesting It is called ''___': The Spirit Molecule'. It say, 'A Doctor's Revolutionary Research into the Biology of Near-Death and Mystical Experiences' By Rick Strassman, M.D. To tell you the truth, I read it like 4 years ago and don't remember details. I think I'll read it again, though.
Also, excess dopamine does definitily cause dellusions and hallucinations (ie. psychotic behavior) That's why ' anti- psychotic drugs block dopamine receptors.
Lastly, for people very interested in this topic, I recently received some information from a group called, 'Council on Spiritual Practices' (www.csp.org) These guys are doing research on entheogens and the spiritual life. Entheogens (God-evoking substances) include Peyote cactus,mushrooms, and other plants and chemicals.
I didn't mean to go 'off topic', but invisible and other dimensions do relate to this. Our brain are wired to believe in the spiritual world, otherwise, all these natural plants wouldn't take us 'there'.
And in answer to the other fellow who said speed and something short-circuited our brain and I don't know he said something about geometry (?) I'd be interested to know exactly what you meant because you said, 'Yech'.
Definitly, not all mystical or 'otherworldly' or 'other invisible dimensional' experiences are 'Yech'. Many, many people have had unbelievably peaceful or uplifting near-death or chemically-induced or neurotransmitaly-induced experiences.
Originally posted by otterbaby
Hey all, my honest opinion is that I believe in God (Spirit , higher power,) whatever you want to call it. And IMHO anything that was "naturally created" and can be consumed "naturally" that is w/out a 'lab' to create it or strengthen it, is OK and put on the earth for enlightenment. Just as american indians and other cultures respected and honored the natural "trips" for spiritual purposes.
I'm definitely not into nor do I think its good to just experiment or be a druggie not that I judge others but, you know what I'm saying.
I'm just saying if there was nothing else there (ie no other dimensions) then why would our brains concieve of it. If nothing else existed then I don't see why we'd trip there.
Then we
see, hear, smell, eat and touch electro- magnetic radiation.
So, it doesn't matter if we may be
as human beings are only able to interact with dimensions associated with the Electro-magnetic world.
Because we can only interact with the
a small segment of a greater Universe
out of the
Electro-magnetic world
So we may need to sufficiently evolve before we can interact with more than our segment of the
greater universe
greater Universe
What do you think ?
Originally posted by otterbaby
Hi Thanks Skyblueffo for the input to this thread. I really think its interesting and important to realize so many cultures had (have) these plants and ceremonies for enlightenment.
That was an interesting substance (note I didn't say drug) We're discussing a sensitive subject because we're not allowed to talk about drug use at ATS. I tried to talk about a site of a research company where they're doing experiments like this with natural plants. But, the Mods deleted it. But, they let your's stay...go figure...
Anyway, in Polynesia they have the Kava Kava ceremonial drink that encourages social atmosphere and relaxation. Its from the root of a plant and is nonalcoholic. It's not illegal and the plant extract is sold in health food stores in tincture form and capsules. When I'm stressed and have axiety Kava Kava really works.
[edit on 6-11-2005 by otterbaby]