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As for those who truly rebel? I'd like to say that schools should always respect children's opinions and should nurture argument and debate but experience teaches me otherwise. Often the truly rebellious children are those who are intelligent and possess inquisitive minds and yet get bored easily. Good teachers will stretch them and make them think harder. Bad teachers will not.
Describes me and my friends very well.
Often the truly rebellious children are those who are intelligent and possess inquisitive minds and yet get bored easily.
Do you really suggest that kids should be encouraged to sort out their differences with physical violence? This ultimately leads to increased violence in society when they leave school - and society is already plenty violent as it is and you can be sure that many disputes will be resolved at the end of a gun, not just with fists.
Moreover, schools are highly regulated and restrictive for a reason - teenagers are among the most rebellious element of a society. They do not have an economic stake in society (for the most part they don't have jobs/mortgages/dependents) making them more likely to turn to react against society. Moreover, when you consider that teens have little or no political or economic power and are physically hormonal anyway, it makes for a potent combination. It is no accident that the recent French riots were composed of largely disillusioned youths. Nor is it an accident that apprentice riots (usually composed of teenages) were common in Medieval and Early Modern Europe.
thats a pretty big assumption to make. There are many responsibilities to being a leader, and you may think your ready but you may not be. Im not saying your not because i dont know you but think about things like that before you say something as strong as that.
I am going to be a leader.In fact I am one of the few people who would be.
School has ruled my life. I can not escape what I cannot overcome. The homework. If someone took that out I would donate all my money to that person because I would be able to have time with my family, instead of sitting in the living room studying. They play videogames while I work, they go in the hottub while a work, its not fair. Keep school in school.
I wish I had one superpower at school or one thing that all the girl liked or something, everyone else seems to have something good about them but me. That is why I hate school. Kids like me (theres more?) have nothing good about them.
Originally posted by syberwolff
Yes, in a way, i am saying that, in a controlled environment though. I once read about a school that had a 'boxing arena' type place where kids could fight to get out their anger. Yes i know theres wrestling, but that really does nothing. A controlled fight is what i think would be best. there would be kinks and quirks that need working out, its not perfect by a long shot, but as you said, teenager rebel, they cant sit and talk.
God our school needs a debate club!
Boxing/wrestling are both good suggestions although most schools would shy away from them due to the fear of injuries. You could still join a local club or even martial arts which works on a similar principle of controlled physical violence.
As for debating clubs - well you could always start one at your school!
Originally posted by McGuirk
I do agree that the ability to bounce ideas off each to learn is a good one, but I'm not talking theory here. Things like physics(non-theory), chemistry, math... those are just formulas and memorization. I don't need a teacher to show me how to do that stuff, I can read it in a book.
Now, theory is a different animal. Obviously being able to discuss with other more knowledgable people is an advantage in learning. My point was why do I need to pay some school 20-30 grand a year to do that?
Originally posted by McGuirk
i'll tell you what. education is necessary.
but i'll interject a pretty well known quote here, not sure who said it but its something like this.
"everything i ever needed to know i learned in kindergarten."
Here's the thing. There are people like myself who are naturally intelligent and rational, who can learn things by themselves by reading and experimenting on their own, without someone actually teaching them in a class.
Now, there's another group, who may or may not be less intelligent, who need someone to actually relay the information to them instead of just reading it. They need to be shown by a teacher how to do things or have someone explain a theory to them.
The problem I have is this.
Why should I have to pay to go a college when I can just read the books and learn it myself? Sure, colleges should still be there for those who need someone to teach them.
I am a mechanical designer by the way, but when I was looking for jobs I saw many that required a degree. Now I look at those and say, hey , i have 4 years of experience in doing that job, why do I need a degree? I already know the information I would be taught for that degree.
There are many employers who actually do value experience over someone fresh out of school with a degree... and the reason is this. Experience is the true way to learn.
Schools need major reform, and I think alot of the people here recognize that.