Bay Area Teen Wants to Start High School 'Caucasian Club'

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

But Im glad you can see Colonel. A white club wouldnt be a bad thing. This isnt the old Deep South. where whites clubs meant whites only, coloreds, drink from your own fountain. White kids simply need a place where they can discuss thier own history, or discuss similar interests, problems ect with willing ears.

Well, instead of the "white" club. Maybe it should be the Italian or German or whatever club. I think when people say "white" club, they think segregation, KKK, etc as I originally thought. I dunno.

Originally posted by Illmatic67
People seem so lost.

What has history shown us about "white clubs"

That they're terrorists.



[Edited on 9-19-2003 by Illmatic67]

The Majority of Americans would same the same thing about muslims... but if they did you would say that they were racial profiling... Where do we draw the line??

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K_OS

Originally posted by K_OS

Originally posted by Illmatic67
People seem so lost.

What has history shown us about "white clubs"

That they're terrorists.



[Edited on 9-19-2003 by Illmatic67]

I always laugh I see that #.

Originally posted by Colonel

True. You mods are out to get me but that doesn't mean I'm a victim. It just means you'e out to get me and I reamin a daily pain in your backside.

What? Was I lying about the casinos? How many gazillion dollars does the Indian gaming industry get?

Oh, and here is the truth on the black-owned casino:

www.lasvegasmercury.com...

It was the coolest place in Vegas.

Well, I would put down "white" if I was white. I just got a thing about lying, ya know?

LOL... I am not even getting into this one.....lol

The mods aren't trying to get you... Remove your tin foil hat and awaken to reality...

I couldn't tell you the first thing about the casinos... as I said I am above using my race to get ahead in life.

I use my brain..... (that is the little thing under the tin foil hat and under your skull in case you didn't know... )
I am just so sick of other minorities using their race as an excuse!!!. Come on by doing this you are in a sence, saying that you need your color to be able to compete...

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K_OS

Originally posted by K_OS

LOL... I am not even getting into this one.....lol

The mods aren't trying to get you... Remove your tin foil hat and awaken to reality...

I couldn't tell you the first thing about the casinos... as I said I am above using my race to get ahead in life.

I use my brain..... (that is the little thing under the tin foil hat and under your skull in case you didn't know... )
I am just so sick of other minorities using their race as an excuse!!!. Come on by doing this you are in a sence, saying that you need your color to be able to compete...


Umm, let's give all K-os a big clap for being so heroic and not using "race" to get ahead in life. (clap-clap).

Unfortunately, some of us don't have the pigment to HIDE who they really are. So, on first meeting, a different set of totally negative sterotypes and expectations are placed upon me as opposed to you. So, I HAVE to use my brain to get ahead to defeat those beliefs. Oh, but I guess you don't get that because you played the race card on being white.

But, again, let's give K-os a hand.


[Edited on 20-9-2003 by Colonel]

Colonel,

Its called the Caucasian Club. caucasian nbasically means white peopel, but its the scinetific term. The term is sued because the origins of the white people are believed to be the Caucasius Maontains in Souther Russia/Armenia/ around there.

Caucasian club is fine, its just etrmed white club for simplicity.

White people in this country come from so many European backgrounds that most of us are very mixed lot. Im a Euro mutt, being 1/4 Enligh, 1/4 German (of Prussian extraction) 1/4 Austrian, 1/8 North Italian. 1/8 Slovenian. A Euro Mutt. Most whites in this country are like me: a hodgepodge of different EWuropean ethnic groups. Thus, we are all caucasians in broader perspective. Much like blacks that were brought here as slaves, were from various tribes, nation states, regions, and civilizations of Africa. But youre all Africans in heritage.

Thus, the Caucasian Club is what the young lady in the bay area wishes to start, for Caucasian issues and such.

K_OS, i think what Colonel is speaking of about the mods is his political affiliation, and how he gets #ed with more because hes a democrat, where republican rants dont get warned as much as he does. i dont believe he is speaking of a racial issue. Illuminatic might, but not Colonel. He speaks from more a political view. And I dont blame him, I dont see the uber conservatives getting warned as much as he does.

Regardless of race, everyone has some tale of oppresion in thier history. Ask the Irish Americans why thier ancestors fled here. or Jewish people. or even Germans. Russians. Every race, every nation, has been a victim of some form of abuse and cruelty.

Even within this country. Remeber the old signs: irish need not apply. Kraut huns, get out. Die Jap scum. Kill the redman cuz his tribe is sitting on the real estate I want to build a golf course on. Healthy negro Slaves for sale, need not buy the whole family, pick whatever memebers you like, check thier teeth like they are horses, if they dont obey, the whip will teach them.

Havent we all suffered enough?

Whoa. You're real versed in history. I didn't know any of that.

But, in the end run, who cares if there is a caucasian club? Let it be. However, there is a backlash if that happens. The group and memebers may be targeted if not with hostility, definitely with scorn.

Originally posted by Colonel

But, in the end run, who cares if there is a caucasian club? Let it be. However, there is a backlash if that happens. The group and memebers may be targeted if not with hostility, definitely with scorn.

Finally we agree.

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K_OS

I hope they are allowed to form their club.

The double standard has to end.

Increasingly the pity for the so called down and outs of our society is causing reverse discrimination.

This is becoming a scourge in the first world and it is about time people start talking about it.

Wouldn't a "Caucasian Club" technically include arabs and Indians too?

Well...........................yeah.

Not really, Flinx. If you go by archaic racial models, when people didnt know any better, then yeah.

But Arabs are not related to Indo Europeans or other Europeans. they have no root in the Caucasius mountains. Arans were once thrown in with the bunch because the old racial model thought the world divided into black, white and yellow. Now we know there is at least 9 or 10.

Indians, for the most aprt belong to the south asian race, also once know as Dravidians. They are clsely related to the Australian aborginies, it is believed, judging by charactersitics and blood types.

Middle easterners were once considered Medditerranian Caucasian, bit new studies show its too broad a group. caucasian,a s sated, generally was refering to indo Europeans and native Europeans, who orgininated in the Caucasious mountains. throuhg invasions and trade, they filtered into the middle east, intermarrying with the numerous tribes there. Thus, they have seom Caucasian history, tho mostly through intermarriage.

The North Indians themselves are mixed as well. The Aryans invaded India around 1500 BC, and eventually, intermarried with the local Dravidian population, and later, the invading Moguls. Sometimes youll find people in northern india who look no different from an average European. This is a remnant of the Aryan tribes.

This si also, sadly, where the caste system came from: histoys first large scale recorded race discrimination. The Aryans, who invaded a people very different in appaearance from them, in the fashion of most conquerers, set up the caste system to elevate themselves above the conquered Dravidans by putting the dark skinend Dravidans in the lower castes, and elevating the Aryans to the higher castes. This system went on for millenia until recently, when it finally eroded. caste, in case youre wondering, comes from the Sanskrit word for "color". the caste system was based on the color of your skin, basically. And now you know Hitlers reasons for his obsession with the Aryans. Iran was taken from the word "Aryan". Iran meant land of the Aryans. The Iranians, youlls till find some that look "white" instead of "middle eastern". Same with Afghanistan. Both countries speak Indo European languages, not Arabic. Persian is closer to English, Russian, German, Italian, ect than it is Arabic. The Iranians (or Persians, as they once we called) eventually, through the conquest of islam, intermarried with other peoples, the Mongols, the Arabs, even Black people from Africa.

Aryans, Teutons, latins, Litts, Celts, Slavs, all came from the core Indo European Group in the Caucasius mountains. When the Danubian basin flooded about 6000 BC, they were forced to migrate outwards into other regions and lands. Some went west into Europe, some went east into india and Pakistan. Some went north, and some satyed closer to home. But they had to leave, because the whole Danubian basin of the black sea flooded em out.

Thus, you could say, yes, Arabs and Indians could be considered caucasian. However, when you speak culturally, and even racially in some aspects then no, they wouldnt be, and most Arabs that I know of dont consider themselves Caucasian or white, they consider themselves a race of thier own.

Remeber that girl, that Afghan girl, on the cover of national geographic with the pale green eyes and European looking face? thats what Im talking about. Remnants of the indo European tribes that once lived there, later intermarrying with people who traveled or invaded.

If an Arab wanted to join a Caucasian club, or an indian, then I dont see why they shouldnt be allowed. Nor an indian. Though Im not sure if they would idnetify with such a group. Its a pretty tricky scenario!
See, Colonel, white people have a history too, that 90% are completely unaware of. A group where we could discuss the pros and cons of white hisotry together without political bias and historical fraud would be great. i wish i had someone in school to talk about with, but we had none.

Did anyone know Buddah was a white guy? he was described as having red hair and blue eyes, an Aryan prince I believe. And one who was disgusted by the caste system, thus, his search for truth led him to englitenment under the Bodhi tree, about the foolishness of the Hindu gods and the absurdity of the caste system, and all these things led to unhappiness, sheding the ego, the human instincts, leads to freedom.

It sounds okay to have the Caucasian Club at that school, but I know for sure it'll stir some trouble and controversy. I'm not a real big fan of minority races trying to separate themselves from all other races. I don't know if it's intentional separation, but it's just dumb. Like for instance, now there's the Latin Grammy's. Why can't all races just compete in the Grammy's? Minority races talk about how they want to be equal with everyone else, but they go and separate themselves by beginning their own programs and groups. I know that if a WET (White Entertainment Television) channel was created, a lot of controversy was be started and it would be a big deal. Things are just really confusing and twisted up!

Since Caucasians have a long, diverse, and traceable history as Skadi illustrated, I think a "Caucasian club" would be foolish. Why not an Italian club, German club, eastern european club, etc (like Colonel said earlier)? Simply making Caucasian club seems kind of nebulous, no?

Also, if you don't understand why minorities have these clubs, just remember the human tendency to group together with similar humans when surrounded by a larger, more homogeneous population. Examples are Little Italy, Chinatown, Litte Havana, Jewish neighborhood, etc. Ask youself why there's no Anglosaxontown? Why's there no Little Caucasia? These groups have never felt they had to group together when surrounded by a larger homogenous populaton.

Well, there's suburbia, but that's another topic completely!

[Edited on 9/20/2003 by Flinx]

I am all for it. I think its a great idea.
I'm not a white American. I don't feel that it would be bad. The only way to change what happened in the past is to educate ourselves and make a better future for our kids. This is a positive thing. The racists will always be racist because that is what they believe and everything is a conspiracy. Well I believe they're wrong. I have encountered racists whites as well as blacks. Its bound to happen. If a small band of white people want to start a club to educate themselves than what's wrong with that. Its always about blacks and racism. I think its wrong. Its totally wrong and that type of racism that blacks see in everything is one thing that needs to change. This can be a great thing if people stop bickering about what's good and what's bad about it to just embrace what it is and let it grow to something positive. The countries views about racism can change. We have to start somewhere. Its not fair that whites cant have an all white college. Its not fair in the least. Let this kids try to fix what's really wrong with this society by challenging the old ways and moving forward instead of living in the past.


Mark

Flinx,

As I already stated,

Caucasians in this country hardly come in one single ethnic group. Having a German Club, Italian club, ect, would not really be sufficent, since most whites in this country are a huge mish mash mix of everyone in Europe. How can you have a german club, when people are 1/4 German, 1/4 Italian, ect. There are hardly any full blooded German caucasians in this country, we are a mix of several nationalities.

Caucasian Club is better. In California, you dont have signifigant numbers of one single ethnic group of people. White people there are mixes of everything. Thus, an Italian club would be for....maybe One single student.

Caucasian clubs cover brouder groups of people. Since you have a small number of white people from various backgrounds, a Caucasian club blankets all of them.

Hispanics can trace thier history as well, yet its not e mexican club they have, but Latin club or Brown pride, even though they are from several Latin American countires.

Being Caucasian is not a crime....at least not yet. Caucasians, though from different backgrounds, still posses common links culturally and genetically, thus, Caucasian club is appropriate.

Caucasians share common links genetically eh? Wow, I think someone needs to see a show called Power of an Illusion.

www.pbs.org...


But fine, whatever. Make a caucasian club. Being in America means people can make whatever kind of club they want to.

If some kids somewhere want to make a White Club and get beat up, they have that right.

Um, Flinx, I think you had better um.....try better than a questionable series on PBS that amounts to the biggest load of PC bull# Ive ever seen.

I could not believe the propoganda on there. Illogical, poorly presented.

1. Race does not exist. Oh really? Then how can thier be racism if race does not exist! Thats the biggest load of crap Ive ever seen. Do they even understand what Race is?

2. There is no one gene that idenitifies race. So, there is no one gene that idenitifes sex either, but a combination of chromosones and genes. God, these people really debunk themselves.

Race is simply the product of human and evolutionary diversity. Since humans did not stay in one place, but migrated elsewhere, they devloped different genetic traits to better adapt and cope with survival in various climates.

Humans in sunny hot dry climates, for instance, devloped darker skin, leaner builds to cope with harsh desert environments. people who moved to cold, dark, snowbound climates eventually lost thier pigmentation to help recieve more sunlight radiation for the manufacture of vitamin D, and thinner noses to warm the cold air better. These traits manifested of thousands upon thousands of years. persons in cold, dry, arid arctic climates developed eyefolds to shield the eye from blasting chilled winds, and extra padding on thier cheeks to help prevent frostbite. they also developed longer torsos and shorter legs for beter circulation.

These idiots on PBS assume race means subspiecies of humanity. They need to get off the dope and go back to anthropology class. Race is more like a breed.

German shepherds and Golden retrievers are both the same spiecies, canis familiaris, or, domestic dog. Yet the are different breeds, possed of different characteristics caused from years of selective breeding. They are the same speices, however, because they both posses the same basic behavioral insticts, and can mate and produce fertile offspring.

A Caucasian human and an African Human can both mate and produce fertile offspring. they both posses the same survival needs, and possess the same basic behavioral patterns. But they are diffeerent breeds, varieties of human.

If race didnt exist, than certain genetic disorders would not exist within specific racial groups, nor would certain bloodtypes be common and repetivitive amongst said blood groups.

There are different variations of humans. All are the same species, but over time, humans developed different cultures and traditions based on many aspects of life wherever they lived.

Race is not a modern concept. Even the Greeks, Chinese, ect knew this. Ever read Platos republic? Plato was probably one of the worlds first fascists. The Aryans produced a huge slavery system based on race, the Caste system.

Race and racism are as old as mankind themselves.

PBS should be ashamed of themselves.

And as for your snide comment about white kids getting beat up for making a Caucasian club, you wouldnt be so msart assed if you had to be in thier shoes.

The PBS show was a load of bull? Did you even watch the series? Propoganda? What the hell? Yeah, that evil PBS telling the truth and make us realize that we're not so very different. Evil PBS trying to make us believe race is only a human social construct.

1. How can there be racism if race does not exist? People's prejudice is based on skin shade and facial features. That doesn't prove race exists. You think that because people (even if they're Plato) say something exists that means it's true? Race, like religions and other things, that humans have made up in order to classify other people. Any antropologist can tell you this.

2. There is no gene that identifies race. That is correct. There are genes that identify skin color, hair texture, etc., but those are few amd far betwen. They are hard to find and make up only a very small part of our genetic make up. It's not comparable to something like sex. Might was well base race on hair or eye color, because the genes that cause the external differences between the so-called races are just numerous and just as important.

If you watch the series, they show a class of college students who perform some genetic tests on themselves. It turned out that, despite their initial ideas, the students' nearest relations weren't other people in the class of the same "race". For example the blond-haired kid had more genes in common with the black guy than he did with the brown-haird white guy. The Chinese girl had a more similar genetic heritiage with the hispanic girl than she did with the other "Asian" in the class.

If society based race on science and genetics (aka truth) instead of mere external appearnces, a group from one "race" would contain (so-called) blacks, whites, hispanics, and others. A group selected from another race might have a Somilian, an Indian, a Brit, and a German.

By the way, we can't be compared to dogs. We're nothing like dogs! We don't have breeds. Look at a Chihuahua and a Great Dane. If one didn't know better you'd say they were a different species. Dogs are MUCH more diverse than us. Humans are one of, if not the most genetically similar species on this planet. This is most likely because ther were only 2,000 of us (Homo sapiens) alive at one point.

And how do you know this ?:
"Humans in sunny hot dry climates, for instance, devloped darker skin, leaner builds to cope with harsh desert environments. people who moved to cold, dark, snowbound climates eventually lost thier pigmentation to help recieve more sunlight radiation for the manufacture of vitamin D, and thinner noses to warm the cold air better. These traits manifested of thousands upon thousands of years. persons in cold, dry, arid arctic climates developed eyefolds to shield the eye from blasting chilled winds, and extra padding on thier cheeks to help prevent frostbite. they also developed longer torsos and shorter legs for beter circulation. "

Now that's most likely bull if anything. That's just some theory. All we have is science, genetics, and antropological evidence. Neither of which supports this theory. Oh and the Neanderthals supposedly developed larger noses to warm the air...thin noses didn't cut it. Also, wouldn't humans have started to adapt to their new environments (North America)?

P.S. - And as for me being smartassed... I can be as #ing smartassed as I want. If I were in there shoes? I don't give a sh*t. I'm not in there shoes, and if I were I wouldn't make the damn club in the first place. I've given my reasons why and won't waste anymore time debating this.

Next to sex, race is the biggest difference amongst humans excepting someone that is born a freak.

Race is a fact of life it cannot be willed away.

All that can be done to eliminate the issue is to have everyone interbreed which is part of the globalist program.

Their efforts at this are starting to bear fruit.

It is both good and bad.