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Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
likewise, I don't believe in the reality of infinity. Nothing goes on forever.
Originally posted by mOjOm
So you believe in the reality of Zero but not infinity???
What if they're both the same thing???
Like you said, "Nothing goes on forever."
There seems to be a problem. Many people still do not understand the meaning, the value, and the use of zero. In this day and age of high tech we still revert to this ancient myth that division by zero is some sort of error. Conceived and printed in the days when they thought the earth was flat, our early mathematicians created a mathematical error that has lasted for centuries and may last for eternity.
Originally posted by Cicada
I am by no means a mathematician but reading this post I could not help but think of the Chaos theory and Fractal Geometry:
Chaos Theory and Fractals
This subject was slightly popularized in the late eighties/early nineties in this book, where I mostly learned about it:
Chaos: Making a New Science
Protector, if you're familiar with Fractal Geometry I'd love to hear your take on it and how it relates to your post.
Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
I don't believe in the materiality of "zero" either...
Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
And logic is merely a form of the Greek "logos," or word...
Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
What I'm saying is, logic/math isn't set in stone...
Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
Especially economics, where we use it for counting money (another man-made, imaginary concept).
Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
Is there ever zero leaves, zero planets, zero snowflakes? Of course not.
every leaf is totally unique, as is every snowflake. We call them "same," so that we can pigeon-hole them into categories and count them.
Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
But then, I'm a Neoplatonist. I believe there are non-material universes that are just as "real" (if not more so), than this one.
Originally posted by yeahright
Here's a fairly extensive site that may be of some interest-
members.lycos.co.uk...
There seems to be a problem. Many people still do not understand the meaning, the value, and the use of zero. In this day and age of high tech we still revert to this ancient myth that division by zero is some sort of error. Conceived and printed in the days when they thought the earth was flat, our early mathematicians created a mathematical error that has lasted for centuries and may last for eternity.
The guy has some interesting thoughts and goes into this topic in great detail. I remember having a vigorous argument with my 7th grade math teacher about this, although at the time, it was just about me being a posterior pain. Who knew I could've been right?
Originally posted by Protector
Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
But then, I'm a Neoplatonist. I believe there are non-material universes that are just as "real" (if not more so), than this one.
But wouldn't you also agree that because this one has the unique quality of physicality that it proves in every moment what can be real and finite? Either you have an apple or you don't... know what I mean?
Why throw out a perfectly feasable mathematical equasion? You must be think that thousand year old mathematicians were better then modern ones. Mathematics is not like the bible. Most of our mathematics today is not older then the light bulb. They did not deal with industrial aplications. They had no idea or nuclear phisics. Super conductors or lasers. They were siple people who used simple math. Now you seem to belive that because something has been taught for a thousand years, then it must be right. Do you know how stupid that is. Most of our science today is a contradiction to what people thought a thousand years ago. If we listend to arguments like yours we would be living in the stone age.
If you dont research my work then bother talking to me. You waiste my time.
Originally posted by Protector
I don't even know how to respond to this crap. Any ideas?
Originally posted by AkashicWanderer
I'd just copy and paste the following equation:
Let x=0.9~
10x=9.9~
9x=9
x=1
Therefore 0.9~=1
Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
Originally posted by AkashicWanderer
I'd just copy and paste the following equation:
Let x=0.9~
10x=9.9~
9x=9
x=1
Therefore 0.9~=1
The problem is in line 3. If x is constant throughout your exercise, line 3 should read:
9x = 8.1~
Originally posted by Protector
In regards to the ZeroByZero website posted earlier, I wrote an email to the person who runs the website and here is the response... WOW:
Why throw out a perfectly feasable mathematical equasion? You must be think that thousand year old mathematicians were better then modern ones. Mathematics is not like the bible. Most of our mathematics today is not older then the light bulb. They did not deal with industrial aplications. They had no idea or nuclear phisics. Super conductors or lasers. They were siple people who used simple math. Now you seem to belive that because something has been taught for a thousand years, then it must be right. Do you know how stupid that is. Most of our science today is a contradiction to what people thought a thousand years ago. If we listend to arguments like yours we would be living in the stone age.
If you dont research my work then bother talking to me. You waiste my time.
I don't even know how to respond to this crap. Any ideas?
Originally posted by AkashicWanderer
Therefore 0.9~=1
Originally posted by AkashicWanderer
Let x=0.9~
10x=9.9~
9x=9
x=1
Therefore 0.9~=1