Pink Floyd... NWO, MKULTRA, CIA, occultists?, page 4
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reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 05:34 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Hellmutt



why did you mention that song several species of animals? it is the song that prompted me to question if floyd may be into the occult and interested in working sigil magick on listeners. that song tripped me out


reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 08:52 AM by Ian McLean
I'm currently of the opinion that my all-time favourite Floyd song is one of their most obscure: "Wots...uh the Deal":

Heaven sent the promised land
Looks alright from where I stand
Cause I'm the man on the outside looking in

Waiting on the first step
Show where the key is kept
Point me down the right line because it's time

To let me in from the cold
Turn my lead into gold
Cause there's chill wind blowing in my soul
And I think I'm growing old

...
Source


On one level, it describes a theme of spiritual and intellectual progress or enlightenment. It's obvious that either Waters or Gilmour (or, more likely, both) are familiar with alchemical themes (the "turn my lead into gold" line).

It blends those ideas so well with the more common Floyd theme of containment, both internally and externally projected and applied.

If Floyd is indeed "just another rock band" (as another poster opined), I wish all bands would write songs of such density. Their guitar work is beautiful, too.



reply posted on 9-7-2008 @ 04:16 PM by Anonymous ATS
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Try recording it and playing it backwards at 3 different speeds...it is about unnatural (hetero and homosexual) sex and lust, and punishment in Hell for being too environmentalist (Sierra Club) and not caring enough about humanity...there is also a veiled reference to his father's death mentioned in Free Four (Obscured By Clouds) "He was buried like a mole in a foxhole and everyone's still on the run"

P.S. I was having a discussion last week on the newsgroup Alt.Music.Pink-Floyd (AMP-F) discussing the Enigma, and the subject I brought up was the Iran Contra Affair

..and what a coincidence! The anti-troll/spam key word for submitting this post is "irancontra" no kidding! I just did a screencapture to prove it.

-mmddll

I'll send some soundclips of the backwards "Several Species of Small Furry Animals"

They know very well about the NWO, but won't admit it (they are on the inside looking out, which is what "The Gold It's In The..." is all about


reply posted on 18-8-2008 @ 02:19 AM by Ian McLean
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For me it was always 'Cirrus Minor'.

In regards to your other post, Anonymous (gee, you sure do have a lot of opinions!), do you think that's where the 'Pink' in the band's name came from? What's up with that?


reply posted on 18-8-2008 @ 03:31 AM by Ian McLean
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Well, maybe; I hadn't thought of that before.

But I always thought it was because Gilmour and Waters, both great artists, had different musical techniques. In my opinion, with Water, the message that the music carries is the art, and what the creative direction is pointed at; with Gilmour, the music itself expresses the impact, and the 'message' it's built upon, need only be honest and truthful, not necessarily profound.

The contrast here would be between Waters' "Watching TV", and Gilmour's "Coming Back to Life". Both incredible songs. But with a different motivational technique as far as how you would actually create such a song, but somehow, both reaching the same overall level of art, from different directions.

I can understand how collaborating, with such different techniques, could be hard. And while I admire Waters' idealism/angst, I think there's a very good point to be observed: at the time, the band was still playing 'Money', at every concert, because the fans demanded it: and not because everyone loved the subtle irony of the song.


reply posted on 18-8-2008 @ 11:06 AM by NightVision
reply to post by ST SIR 86



I can see your point ST, but if you listen to "On the Turning Away" (same album), you will discover a message for the masses that is uplifting and compassionate for those who are suffering. David Gilmour nails it.

I have more info. On the Enigma, as I was briefly involved with Pink Floyd from the inside around the Live8 gig. Ill do my best to answer any questions if you have any.


On the turning away
From the pale and downtrodden
And the words they say
Which we wont understand
Dont accept that whats happening
Is just a case of others suffering
Or youll find that youre joining in
The turning away

Its a sin that somehow
Light is changing to shadow
And casting its shroud
Over all we have known
Unaware how the ranks have grown
Driven on by a heart of stone
We could find that were all alone
In the dream of the proud

On the wings of the night
As the daytime is stirring
Where the speechless unite
In a silent accord
Using words you will find are strange
And mesmerized as they light the flame
Feel the new wind of change
On the wings of the night

No more turning away
From the weak and the weary
No more turning away
From the coldness inside
Just a world that we all must share
Its not enough just to stand and stare
Is it only a dream that therell be
No more turning away?

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