Pink Floyd... NWO, MKULTRA, CIA, occultists?, page 1

Originally posted by informatu
What is the deal with Pink Floyd? Are they occultists?

from Dictionary.com
3. Available only to the initiate; secret: occult lore.
4. Hidden from view; concealed.

I guess you could say they are. I think they were a bunch of talented young individuals trying to understand the world around them and express that through their music. In trying to examine universal concepts (such as they did), you'll inevitably cross paths with subjects that "resonate" with other existing concepts/theories. So, if their considered occultists, maybe it's more by synchronicity then direct intent.

Maybe they're more like psychic amplifiers of the collective unconcious/universal mind ?

I'm surprised no one's mentioned holophonic sound. They were one band that was always on the bleeding edge of technology, from the early use of samplers (the Mellotron, analog tape based) to the use of holophonics on the final cut. what is holophonics?

Developed in the 1980s by Hugo Zuccarelli, Holophonic Sound uses the same “multiple exposure” premise as that used to create holographic images (“holograms”). Holophonic Sound is produced by recording the interference pattern generated when the original recorded signal is combined with an inaudible digital reference signal. The recorded sound produced is so realistic, some people claim they can smell sulphur when they listen to a holophonic recording of someone striking a match! It appears that Holophonic Sound waves stimulate our brains to reproduce very realistic and truly three dimensional sound within us, thereby stimulating other corresponding responses that our brains expect to accompany the sound, (like scents or other sensations). Even more interesting is the fact that researchers report that some hearing impaired people can “hear” Holophonic Sound

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from From Sounds "Guitar Heroes", #9 May 1983
DS: Can you tell me a bit about this Holophonic sound on the new album?

DG: There's some of it on this album. We really didn't have the time or energy to really do it justice on this record, I don't think. It is a system that works best on headphones. It works best on the Sony, the little Walkman type headphones. It's good on other headphones, and it does work to a certain extent on speakers. The type of sound effects and things you hear on the record are very realistic, they sound better and more realistic because of it but you don't get all the things that you get with it on headphones.

If you listen on point source speakers or time aligned speakers it works better than it does on the type of speakers that most people have on their hi-fi's these days, which are two or three way speakers which aren't time aligned and unfortunately the phase shift between the different speaker units in a cabinet tends to destroy part of the effect. On some of the demonstration stuff that I've heard from it, on Walkman headphones, it's quite astounding. You probably know the dummy head stereo..."

No

Well, there's a dummy head thing that Neumann and Sennheiser used to make - a dummy head microphone thing, where you just have a head with microphones in, and if you listen back to stuff recorded on that on headphones, you actually get all-round sound. But this one does all-round sound and up and down and all sorts of strange stuff.

It has a dynamic thing as well, where it affects the dynamics and you can have things that appear to your brain to be fantastically loud, but they're not moving the needles very loud at all. It's not actually a loud sound on the tape,but your brain thinks it is. The secret of this Holophonic thing is that it actually fools your brain; it's not what is actually on the tape or on the record, that isn't all of it - it's actually making a reaction with your brain; it's very hard to explain but it alters how you perceive the sound.

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The whole subject of holophonics and why it's so little heard of desrves a thread of it's own. Hint: it's probably got to do with those new crowd control sound devices the U.S. gov't have recently been demonstrating.....

Were they part of an elaborate scheme during the psychadelic 60s to forge new ground in mind control?

Well, they're generally associated with conciousness expanding activities so I'd have to say prob. not, whether or not they were co-opted is another question. Now Grand Funk, there's a band that it could be said were a mind control experiment gone awry. To qoute from their song All the girls in the world beware:
"I got dark brown stains in my underwear...
chorus:
All the girls in the world beware,
Grand Funk is everywhere....."

I kid you not

Good thread

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Some holophonics links:
Holophonic sound demo
Info on holophonics (fairly old)
The Holographic Universe