How can we make NASA admit they are covering UFO's up? The last lot is best.

nullster et. all,

Obviously some specialists at NASA, including the astronauts, would have to be part of the coverup or their is no evidence whatsoever that Aliens are currently visting our planet.

I am not inherrently bias one way or the other - except that several astronauts and cosmonauts have come out publicly saying that their is indeed a cover up.

Usually where there is smoke their is fire - and the mixture of "reliable" sightings mixed with these government insider whistleblowers testimonies tends to point to a real phenomenna being denied by our officials and kept quiet.

As for the original question - what can we do - there is quite a bit we can collectively do to force disclosure - however it requires money and cooperation - and those are two topics that will get you banned at ATS for seriously discussing.

I have gone on record many times as having a detailed workable disclosure plan - but I need to be put into contact with serious people if it is to be implemeneted.

And since we cannot discuss group action without this sites owner(s) permission its kind of a waste of time to start a thread about it here.

OK, There is a very outspoken NASA Astronaut. Storey Musgrove I believe he took part in the failed Biosphere project in Arizona and I flew as a Specialist on at least two Space Shuttle missions. I am pretty sure one of those missions was to repair the Hubble Telescope.

He is, lets say...pretty progressive. In all his talks about inteligent life or UFO's, I have never heard or read him say there was NASA or Government cover up. This guy is pretty colorful and I would expect him to be bold enough to say something like that. Now he is always been open about his views and beliefs about intelligent life, but UFO sites are quick to "reword" or "read into" his statements and views.

As for other astronauts, most people refer to UFO sites that quote the various Apollo Mission astronauts as talking either candidly or in code about UFOs. All of those have been debunked already. Again to be clear, it's one thing for an Astronaut to believe in inteligent life and a whole other subject to suggest UFO cover ups. As far as I know. The later of the two is pure UFO'ologist fiction.

[edit on 31-10-2005 by nullster]

Well - two other astronauts who have gone on the public record about a coverup are Gordon Cooper and Dr. Edgar Mitchell.

I am sure there are several here at ATS who have a more comprehensive list including the several Cosmonauts who have gone on record about this issue.

I believe you have tried to debunk Cooper in previous discussions with me (perhaps it wasn't you) but I do find it interesting that he was willing to speak to the UN about the issue - so obviously he believed in it passionately.

As for Musgrave - you are right - its a stretch to try to read anything sinister into his sound bites (at least the ones I am aware of) but he, to me, seems like someone who wants to get something off his chest without ruining his career.

Again put these testimonies side by side with other police, pilot, and military professionals sightings, and it appears there is something real and worth further investigation here.

And if the above top secret branches of NASA and our Military space command are not in loop - I don't know who would be.

Originally posted by dave_54
Because NASA has nothing. The Air Force has everything and is making it look like it is NASA that is hiding everything, thus deflecting attention from them.

NASA is incapable of keeping anything secret. Around 80% of their workforce is contractors and subcontractors and cannot be pressured to maintain secrecy (their loyalty is to the corporate bottom line, not 'national security'). If there was any secret technology of commercial value at NASA the private companies would already have it in the public marketplace.

You re so very right here,. If anything I would be more inclined to believe that the jeb propulsion labs are the culprits. "Need To Know" remember that.

i didnt read this thread...only the question.. how bout we all send like 10+ letters to NASA and hopefully if we can finally get the message across that we want to know to, then maby they will eventually listen.

i cant see them admitting it all of a sudden unless we were to do somthing.

Originally posted by BirDMan_X
i didnt read this thread...only the question.. how bout we all send like 10+ letters to NASA and hopefully if we can finally get the message across that we want to know to, then maby they will eventually listen.

i cant see them admitting it all of a sudden unless we were to do somthing.

The Disclosure Project has done much more than this, and not gotten anywhere.