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Originally posted by yeahright
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[edit on 5/12/2006 by yeahright]
Originally posted by wecomeinpeace
My fascination with this topic lies in theorising as to what "the secret" and the apostacy could be, specifically in relation to the events as allegorically portrayed in Revelation, so forgive me if I ramble and brainstorm a bit or go in a slightly different direction to where most of you are going. There's been some great posts by some very knowledgable people regarding the history of Knights Templar, Rennes-le-Chateau, et al.
Mayet and bigprobe mentioned bloodlines, DNA and cloning. The concept of DNA being an image is interesting. If you think about it, DNA is like an image or a blueprint for our physical make-up. Could it be that the image of the Beast is a jump in our evolutionary DNA, something that will be presented as our "stepping stone to divinity", simultaneously seeming to erase the need for God and disproving his divine elevation above us? (What was that line in The Incredibles: "Saying everyone's special is another way of saying no one is.") Maybe the bloodlines of the Merovingian is in fact this advanced DNA, or the missing piece of a DNA puzzle to soon be completed. Maybe the image of the Beast is the DNA of that bloodline and worship of those who possess it? The Beast of Revelation rises out of the sea, 'sea' being a Biblical metaphor for the many races and nations of men. Could it be that the image of God, the likeness of God, is the ascension by spiritual means and through the salvation of Jesus, whereas the image of the Beast is pursuit of divinity through physical means, a counterfeit, a copy, or a deception presented as a shortcut or path to divinity. Jesus stressed that man can only reach the kingdom of heaven through Him.
But if DNA is the secret, then how could Newton be so readily converted if indeed he was made privy to it? There was no way to see, identify, or even conceive of DNA in his day. His fascination with geometry and mysticism would point to the possibility that the secret is metaphysical in nature; the same pursuits that Crowley dabbled in. Does it have to do with the geometry of the Temple of Solomon, or the Pyramids. The freemasonic fascination with geometry and numerology, and the description of it as "the craft" all seems to tie together...but how? Freemasonry also alludes to "seeking the light". What is it that they are searching for exactly?
o.p. by Valhall
My question for most of my life was: What could cause such a sudden abandonment of long held religious beliefs? It seems it would have to be something that appeared almost irrefutable. It would have to be evidence. And it would have to be evidence presented in a manner that would make it acceptable to an audience it was at the same time "proving wrong".
10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
John 7:10, or 6:81, depending on how you slice it.
But when his brethren were gone up, then went he (Jesus) also up unto the feast, not openly, but as it were in secret.
Originally posted by Valhall
How about this one?
What's at the dead-center of that painting?
Munkacsy (1881) Christ Before Pilate
Originally posted by Valhall
Let's review the oddity of it:
1. We have only one woman depicted in the scene. She cannot be Mary the mother of Christ since she has a child.
2. Christ is not the center of the painting, but instead the woman and child are at the dead center to the painting.
3. The child in the woman's arms is not looking at Christ but is staring dead on to the viewer of the painting.
4. The woman is holding a shield against the boy in her arms.