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Al-Qaeda training manuals distributed in eastern Iran

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posted on Oct, 24 2005 @ 10:39 AM
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This report states that Al-Qaeda instructional CD’s are either being produced in Iran, or being smuggled through Iran. Anybody surprised?

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London, Oct. 22 – Compact discs containing al-Qaeda’s training manuals and propaganda materials are being freely distributed in Iran’s eastern and southeastern provinces, according to local residents.

The instructions, all in Arabic, cover a wide range of political and ideological indoctrination, as well as offering detailed guidelines on military and security tactics, according to residents of the provincial cities of Mashad and Zahedan who have seen the CDs.

“They are easily available and cost nothing”, Gol-Mohammad Baremi, who lives in the southeastern city of Zahedan, told Iran Focus in a telephone interview. “But they can’t be for local people. Hardly anyone here speaks Arabic”.


The article also mentions:



In July 2004, the presidentially-appointed commission investigating the September 11, 2001 attacks upon the United States concluded that al-Qaeda’s relationship with Iran was far deeper and more long-standing than had been envisaged before. The 9/11 Commission noted that as many as 10 of the hijackers transited through Iran before the hijackings.



Oh yeah, they only want nukes for power…Yah!




posted on Oct, 24 2005 @ 10:55 AM
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Personally, I agree with you 100%, but to be fair, lets look at other possibilities.
If the the US and Britian are looking for an excuse to attack/bomb/invade Iran, this helps support that.

Oh, Iran is supporting terrorists-yeah we all know that is true (Hamas, and such) against Israel-they are bad.
Now they are suppoirting AQ.
Since they are on the border of Iraq-they are threatening US/Allied trops and equipment-like aircraft carriers in the gulf.
They are trying/making parts to build a nuclear weapon.
They announced they would "FREELY"share nuclear tech with any muslium country/group-that didn't help their cause.

To be fair, many of the publicly seen protests were/are government organized. I knew an Iranian man in college.
He informed me that thoses giant protests we used to see against the US and such mainly government propaganda.
It went this way, there was a protest schelduled at say 1pm.
All work in that city(s) would stop, people went outside and were given posters and such to wave.
They all canted anti US slogans and such for the cameras.
When that was done, they all went in and back to their jobs.

[edit on 10/24/2005 by mrmonsoon]

reedited to note soft gray letters spelling wOod

[edit on 10/24/2005 by mrmonsoon]


NR

posted on Oct, 24 2005 @ 11:30 AM
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why did you all of a sudden go to IranFocus?? that site is full of BS and propoganda, but i guess since people like you try so hard to make Iran look bad i dont care, monsoon Iran doesnt help al-quieda or taliban we are actually enemies and had pretty much a close war with them, why do you think were beefing up our borders through afghanistan/Kurdistan??? we only support Hezbollah which was to counter Isreali attack on Lebonan. Enuff said....



posted on Oct, 24 2005 @ 11:49 AM
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NR,

"we only support Hezbollah"

So you admit that Iran supports terrorits.
Honestly, how do you know that they don't support other terrorist
organizations?

Are u the overall leader of Iran?
Are you even part of the Irian government?
Are you a ruling/religious leader?
I suspect the answer is no to all the above. I will grant you that "YOU" don't support terrorists.

I noticed you did not question the fact Iran is willing to shar nuclear tech with any muslium country.
I noticed you did not question that Iran is trying to build a nuclear bomb.
I noticed you did not question that Iranian forces are a threat to allied forces in Iraq/the Gulf.


NR

posted on Oct, 24 2005 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by mrmonsoon
NR,

"we only support Hezbollah"

So you admit that Iran supports terrorits.
Honestly, how do you know that they don't support other terrorist
organizations?

Are u the overall leader of Iran?
Are you even part of the Irian government?
Are you a ruling/religious leader?
I suspect the answer is no to all the above. I will grant you that "YOU" don't support terrorists.

I noticed you did not question the fact Iran is willing to shar nuclear tech with any muslium country.
I noticed you did not question that Iran is trying to build a nuclear bomb.
I noticed you did not question that Iranian forces are a threat to allied forces in Iraq/the Gulf.



And how do you know they do? mabey its because of all that CNN bull$%^& or bush administraters claiming to do so, Hezbollah isnt a terrorist organization they were only there to counter- isreali attack on LEBONAN, and yes we still do support them but you dont see them attacking U.S troops or Isrealis now.... did Iran attack the twin towers on 9/11? NO, did Iran make any threads to U.S directly? NO did Iran send out terrorist to U.S? No i know you like to be a cheerleader to Skippy and Westpoint but you know it more than i do its all BS, all those 3 questions i answered 1000x times mabey you can go back on other threads.


JAK

posted on Oct, 24 2005 @ 12:31 PM
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mrmonsoon
Are u the overall leader of Iran?
Are you even part of the Irian government?
Are you a ruling/religious leader?
I suspect the answer is no to all the above. I will grant you that "YOU" don't support terrorists.


This is ridiculous, by this reasoning then you cannot ever question when anyone suggests that the US is sponsoring terrorism anywhere. You don't know, you're not the President! Right?


Also I thought the purpose of NR's initial post here was to argue in reference to the credibility of Iranfocus.com. Personally I don't think there is any argument.

Where else is this story
being reported?

Jak



posted on Oct, 24 2005 @ 12:36 PM
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Go ahead! Start another war! We shall see where this all leads, but I'm sure it will not end well for America.

Afganistan was a good start and you could have put them terrorists on the run, but NO you gotta galvanize their support by invading Iraq


*Sigh* Supporting dictators like Musharraf and King Abdulluh will only bite us in our behind a generation from now.

Iran = Shi'ite

Afganistan = Sunni

Pakistan = Sunni

Saudi Arabia = Sunni

Most of the 9/11 Hijackers were of the Wahhabi Sunni sect from the nation of Saudi arabia. The Taliban has huge support in the Tribal area's between Afganistan and Pakistan. Saudi Arabia continues to allow extremism to be taught in just about every segment of their society.

See a pattern? No? Not surprising really, Jarhead(or wannabes) can only really see whats in front of their face and if it's progaganda saying Iran did such and such or Saddam wanted to smuggle a nuke into the USA then it HAS to be true, the gov't wouldn't lie or anything now would they
.

A war against Iran is not part on the War on Terror it's part of the "Be Isreal's guarddog" Campaign. Now with Saddam out of the picture the Sunni's no longer have a Secular tyrant to idolize. Where to turn too.. hmm I wonder


There are several competing interests in the mid-east and if we cannot even reconize the real enemy then we should get the hell out of there as fast as possible!

Oh well I guess the pullout will start with the 06 Democratic electoral sweep. Great. More socialism. Offtopic: Why does your country feel the need to swing from one extreme to the other several times a generation, yeesh.

Enough of my rant, I'm just glad the warmongers are gonna get neutered politically in 06.



posted on Oct, 24 2005 @ 01:22 PM
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I'm not surprised at all that Al Quaeda is supporting Arab nationalist separatists in eastern Iran at all, no


I'm not surprised they're kiling Shiites in Iraq, and I won' be surprised when it turns out that they're killing them in Iran either.

I would be very surprised if the Iranians would be supporting an organization attacking them and their interests, yes.

And the little blind nationalist exchange earlier in the thread was highly entertaining, keep it up guys, I'm having a ball


[edit on 10/24/05 by xmotex]



posted on Oct, 24 2005 @ 01:30 PM
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"Hezbollah isnt a terrorist organization"
You have got to be kidding me. I think everyone else in the world knows much better than that.

"only there to counter- isreali attack on LEBONAN"
OH, you mean by attacking Israel and hiding behind women and children. Shooting rockets and mortors and such at Israel and hiding in schools and frighten peoples houses.
They do that for 2 reasons-they are cowards and they hope if Israel does attack back-innocents will be killed and they can then claim Israel attacks- lebonan to kill the terrorists.
Further more, the terrorists ppurposefully attack civillians hoping to kill innocents while hidding behind innocents hoping they die to try to justify their murderious ways.

I will give you, as far as absolutes, I am not a member of the federal governmnet of the US. So it is true that I can not 100% for sure know exactly what they do all the time.

I will also give you while Hezbollah IS international know as a terrorist organization that murders women, children and the old at will, they do have other parts/wings. They do give money for food, medicine and such. It however is "MY OPINION" they do this much less for the sake of helping people and much more to swell the murdering, terrorists ranks.


NR

posted on Oct, 24 2005 @ 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by mrmonsoon
"Hezbollah isnt a terrorist organization"
You have got to be kidding me. I think everyone else in the world knows much better than that.

"only there to counter- isreali attack on LEBONAN"
OH, you mean by attacking Israel and hiding behind women and children. Shooting rockets and mortors and such at Israel and hiding in schools and frighten peoples houses.
They do that for 2 reasons-they are cowards and they hope if Israel does attack back-innocents will be killed and they can then claim Israel attacks- lebonan to kill the terrorists.
Further more, the terrorists ppurposefully attack civillians hoping to kill innocents while hidding behind innocents hoping they die to try to justify their murderious ways.

I will give you, as far as absolutes, I am not a member of the federal governmnet of the US. So it is true that I can not 100% for sure know exactly what they do all the time.

I will also give you while Hezbollah IS international know as a terrorist organization that murders women, children and the old at will, they do have other parts/wings. They do give money for food, medicine and such. It however is "MY OPINION" they do this much less for the sake of helping people and much more to swell the murdering, terrorists ranks.



First off all give me some backing and proof that hezbollah attacked children or schools just like what the Isreali airforce did to them right? I think this picture prooves it all. Your not even worth my time, i guess you better hurry to your next schedule on cheerleading list for wespoint and skippy.
These are pictures of what the Isreali airforce did to civilians and their shelter, pathetic losers
















posted on Oct, 24 2005 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by mrmonsoon
"Hezbollah isnt a terrorist organization"
You have got to be kidding me. I think everyone else in the world knows much better than that.

"only there to counter- isreali attack on LEBONAN"
OH, you mean by attacking Israel and hiding behind women and children. Shooting rockets and mortors and such at Israel and hiding in schools and frighten peoples houses.
They do that for 2 reasons-they are cowards and they hope if Israel does attack back-innocents will be killed and they can then claim Israel attacks- lebonan to kill the terrorists.
Further more, the terrorists ppurposefully attack civillians hoping to kill innocents while hidding behind innocents hoping they die to try to justify their murderious ways.

I will give you, as far as absolutes, I am not a member of the federal governmnet of the US. So it is true that I can not 100% for sure know exactly what they do all the time.

I will also give you while Hezbollah IS international know as a terrorist organization that murders women, children and the old at will, they do have other parts/wings. They do give money for food, medicine and such. It however is "MY OPINION" they do this much less for the sake of helping people and much more to swell the murdering, terrorists ranks.


Would help to back that up with proof.

As far as I know, Hezbollah is only considered a terrorist organization by the US, EU, Canada and Australia, hardly the rest of the World.

Hezbollah was formed to fight off the 1982 Invasion of Israel into Lebanon

Source



posted on Oct, 24 2005 @ 02:23 PM
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NR,

It is easy to post pictures without the story behind them.
Was the woman found with weapons or explosives?
Someone being tackled, did he shoot at the soldiers? Throw a bomb at them?
Destroyed buildings-where terrorists shoot from? Where they make bombs at?
Where they convince children it is good to die if you can take some innocent Jewish people with you.
I feel just the pictures may only tell half the real story.

On a personal note-I have directed all my responses to you and the issues ONLY!.
I did not accuse you of being a terrorist cheerleader or anything like that, In fact I went so far as to say,”I will grant you that "YOU" don't support terrorists “.
If you want to continue to debate the issues-cool, fine, but enough with the you are a cheerleader for Skippy and Westpoint that is nothing more than a personal attack on me-not the issues.

Whether I agree with other posters or not is my business and my right here at ATS, so please don't think otherwise.

If you have an issue with others here at ATS, I suggest you take that issue up with them.


Sep

posted on Oct, 25 2005 @ 12:56 AM
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Originally posted by xmotex
I'm not surprised at all that Al Quaeda is supporting Arab nationalist separatists in eastern Iran at all, no


(I assume this wasn’t meant in sarcasm if it was I don apologize).

There are no Arabs in eastern Iran. The Arab population of Iran is in South West of the country.

And to the people who are against the terrorists it seems rather hypocritical to quote IranFocus, a site run by MKO (a terrorist organization according to the US state department) in order to prove that Iran is a terrorist nation. I wonder if you would have quoted them in the 1970s and sited them as credible when they were attacking and killing US citizens as well as Iranians as oppose to now when they only attack Iranians.


Originally posted by skippytjc
Oh yeah, they only want nukes for power…Yah!


May I ask what does this have to do with ANYTHING? You just quote a terrorist site saying that Iran has connections with al-Qaede then out of nowhere you make this statement.




In July 2004, the presidentially-appointed commission investigating the September 11, 2001 attacks upon the United States concluded that al-Qaeda’s relationship with Iran was far deeper and more long-standing than had been envisaged before. The 9/11 Commission noted that as many as 10 of the hijackers transited through Iran before the hijackings.


Well I also believe that all 19 individuals came to the US. They also made a visit to Canada. So these countries have "deep and long-lasting" relationship with the terrorist group?





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posted on Oct, 25 2005 @ 01:06 AM
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There are no Arabs in eastern Iran. The Arab population of Iran is in South West of the country.


I stand corrected.
Still, my point stands, I think the alleged Al Quaeda/Iran connection is bogus, considering who and what Al Quaeda is.



posted on Oct, 25 2005 @ 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by shire19Hezbollah was formed to fight off the 1982 Invasion of Israel into Lebanon


thats a lie, lebanon was invaded because hezbollah and the plo was being supported by them and hezbollah fired katuysha rockets into an israeli town.

[edit on 25-10-2005 by namehere]



posted on Oct, 25 2005 @ 01:58 AM
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Originally posted by namehere

Originally posted by shire19Hezbollah was formed to fight off the 1982 Invasion of Israel into Lebanon


thats a lie, lebanon was invaded because hezbollah and the plo was being supported by them and hezbollah fired katuysha rockets into an israeli town.

[edit on 25-10-2005 by namehere]


Hezbollah was conceived in 1982 by a group of Muslim clerics after the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. It was close to a contingent of some 2000 Iranian Revolutionary guards, based in Lebanon's Bekaa Valley, which had been sent to the country to aid the resistance against Israel.
Hezbollah was formed primarily to offer resistance to the Israeli occupation.

BBC (Source)


You'll find out that there are dozens of sources out there that would disagree with you, where did you get yours?



posted on Oct, 25 2005 @ 03:49 PM
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Al-Qaeda, the organisation that isn't an organisation because it has no members but manages to organise production of training manuals for its members.



posted on Oct, 26 2005 @ 09:49 AM
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Well NR,

We have the real truth of the stance of Iran on Israel and nuclear weapons. Don't take my word for it, lets hear what "YOUR" president has to say on the issues.

www.atsnn.com...

""Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury"

No, Iran doesn't want nuclear tech for weapons, just for making clean energy-lol.

You can print all the BS you want, but your president said it all.



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