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Originally posted by fishmaster
Since the very fictional "Da Vinci Code" there is no real chance for the truth to come out! If there was a very real and serious research team to come about with findings regarding this subject, there would be no chance for them.......this is what bothers me about flogging a dead horse! I wish there was even a minimal chance of us know some truth.
Originally posted by McGuirk
my personal belief that the "holy grail" is actually the moment of enlightenment to the true meaning behind life.
Originally posted by tiddly54
did any one else read the thread about how all the religious stuff might have been just preists eating magic mushies?
maybe the grail is what they drank some kind of tea out of?
Originally posted by cyberfenix
magic mushrooms... flesh of the gods... it's hard to think that magic mushies weren't used at some stage of experimentation...
Originally posted by cyberfenix
. . . the holy grail with regards to alchemy was a method by which one might be able to obtain a complete understanding of the universe . . . it is felt that one would become like a God.
While the idea is to create gold, I guess we have to ask what the gold represents on a symbolic level. Was the cup not golden? I have heard that the stories of alchemists hiding away playing with substances were really studying ancient texts and programs for the mind in order to obtain this level of bliss.
"O Lord God Almighty, merciful gracious Father of Thine Only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, who art only the Lord of Sabaoth, the principle of all things that are made by thy word, and definite end of all creatures above and below; I, poor miserable man and earthworm, return thanks with my babbling tounge from the innermost center of my heart, who hast been pleased to enlighten me with the great light of Thy heavenly and earthly wisdom, and the greatest mysteries of the created secrecies and treasures of this world, together with Thy divine saving word, by which I learn to know Thine Almighty power and wonders. To Thee belongs eternal praise, honour and glory, from eternity unto eternity, that Thou hast bestowed on me health and livelihood, strength and ability to be helpful to my fellow Christians in their necessities and inflicted infirmities with these mystical healing medicines, together with such spiritual comforts, to raise the drooping spirits. Lord, to Thee alone belongs power, might and glory, to Thee is the praise, honour and gratefulness, for all the mercies and graces Thou has bestowed upon me, and hast preserved me therein to this my great age, and lowest comforts, be not angry with me that I deliver up to Thee, mine eternal Creator, the keys of my stewardship; wrapped up in this parchment, according to the duty my calling and conscience calls for; with these Thou did suffer me to keep house the most of my time till now, Thou hast called and foreseen me to be thy servant and steward, and hast graciously afforded, that I should enjoy the noble sweet fruits which were gathered in thy almonary to my last instant, and which now O Lord lieth in Thy power. I beseech Thee for the dear merits of Jesus Christ, come now, when Thou pleasest, enclose my heart, receive my soul into Thy heavenly throne of grace; let her be recommended unto Thee graciously O Thou faithful God, who hast redeemed her on the Holy Cross with the most precious tincture of the true blood of Thy holy body: then is my life well ended on this earth, grant to the body a quiet rest, till at the last day, body and soul join again, and are of a heavenly composition: for now my only desire is to be dissolved, and to be with my Lord Christ: the which Thou, Almighty, Holy, and Heavenly Trinity grant to me, and all good Christian believers. Amen."