Cyclops born - proof that Greek gods exist?

OK, actuall this is a known medical thing. I work in Pathology and any pathologist or PA can tell you that this is a known sequence of abnormality. This is uniformly in stillborn fetuses because the deformity is not compatible with life outside the womb. Usually it is fatal before 6 mos gestation. It is usually accompanied by fused nasal passages above the eye rather than below it, and its called a proboscis. This is well known in fetal pathology and is called Cyclopia. As mentioned it is associated with failure of the division of the 2 hemispheres called Holprosencephaly.

There is no background information in the link to verify that the story is real. Its just a photo with some comments on it. Also, it looks super fake. I'm not saying that such a condition is fake, just that this particular one doesn't look right.

Then again, what should something like that look like anyway eh!

From what I understand, the ancient greeks and the like often came into contact with fossils, particularly megafauna mammals from before the ice age and the like. Many of these fossils look like human bones, but from giant humans. Giant scapula and femurs are noted as being put into shrines and attributed to the greek heros. The cyclops is thought to be, in this scheme, the remains of elephants.


That model doesn't show the head as nicely as this photo tho:

Originally posted by CindyfromFlorida
One of the really wierd things (besides the one eye) is that the eye is open. Usually kittens don't open their eyes until they are at least 9 days old and it says that this kitten is "still born" which of course means it was born dead. I don't know, it looks really strange to me.

I never thought about that.. It's just a deformity. I don't think it has anything to do with the Cyclops. Like if something was born with 3 heads, it probably wouldn't have any relation to a Ceberus.

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I was looking at the site from your source. Why are all its' links and affiliates porn websites? Sorry, just curious.

[edit on 7-11-2005 by Paresthesia]

Originally posted by frayed1
Something like that might have occured back in the day, and could have given rise to the mythology of the cyclops......even if an infant with that defect were stillborn, those who witnessed the birth would have probably accused the poor mother of consorting with some kind of monster.

Nah, the cyclops came from the skulls of elephants/mammoths.



Not knowing anythying about anatomy, someone seeing that would figure a giant monster with a huge eye in it's forehead. Having children born with one eye probably didn't help the matter, though.

Cats eyes are narrow slits (look at Paresthesias cat two posts above this one). Not saying it's a fake. who cares really it's just a birth defect. but it's odd that the eye is not like a cats eye should be.

Looks rather freakin' fake.

I agree with Esoterica
The skull is from either a mammoth or an elephant.

There was a program on either Discovery Channel or the History Channel that dealt with this subject just recently.

They discussed several sites where bones had been found and attributed to heros, giants, or other mythical creatures. But when they were re-examined by present day experts, the bones were actually other prehistoric animals......one they showed was the mammoth skull and leg bones that were mis-identified and re-buried as some giant. They mentioned that the single hole where the trunk attached was taken to be an eye socket, and was believed to be the proof of a cyclops. ( I have trouble envisioning the lower part of the face, though. Wonder how they explained the absence of a nostril opening below that eye? )

After finding bones like that, a birth defect like this would easily serve to further their conviction that cyclops existed.

The same program had examples of other mythical creatures 'supported' by bone finds......the griffin, for instance could be imagined from trying to explain the bones of a triceratops, I believe it was.........

[edit on 11-11-2005 by frayed1]

So it's just me that thinks those pics look totaly fake. The source site isn't exactly much help either "strange still born blah blah blah...more details not known"

Cats are born without fur for a start, that "cat" looks to have grown a fair bit of it. The fur itself looks more like synthetic stuff to me, the sort of stuff cuddly toys are made off, notice the lack of indevidual hairs(more in clumps).

- Larks

First, kittens are born with fur......I have been there at the moment of many kitty deliveries, and they all had fur. Mice on the other hand are born hairless....along with a few others, like opossums.

That photo could be a fake, but if you do a google search for cyclopia images, you will see that they often look pretty much that way. Below is one of a baby goat....the one center eye is over sized, much like the kitty's.

Here's a human variety:

Warning: Image might be disturbing to some:

cas.bellarmine.edu...

WOW that is crazy a mutated cat

that cat is so fake
1. the longated mouth. ya thats fake
2. the head is roundish not cat like
3. no triangular nose
4. no cat ears

even if this picture is real it doesn't prove the actual existence of Greek Gods there's a huge show of malformed human embryos in many museums, what does it prove ?
History is filled with diformity cases , i can't wait for an eight legged horse that would prove the existence of Odin

That cat looks absolutely hideous!

I've turned my every which way, and I still can't understand how it could've possibly lived if it wasn't still born. Apparently God had enough mercy to put an end to this monster in the womb.

But you have to admit, if it had wings, that would be so cool.

even if this picture is real it doesn't prove the actual existence of Greek Gods there's a huge show of malformed human embryos in many museums, what does it prove ?
History is filled with diformity cases , i can't wait for an eight legged horse that would prove the existence of Odin

Ok,

Has ANY of these 'cyclops' born beings lived or were they ALL stillborn?

Possible one mutant from the Greek civilisation had ONE EYE and was a giant. Very unlikely thought.

- Nazgarn

Originally posted by rotgeist
OK, actuall this is a known medical thing. I work in Pathology and any pathologist or PA can tell you that this is a known sequence of abnormality. This is uniformly in stillborn fetuses because the deformity is not compatible with life outside the womb. Usually it is fatal before 6 mos gestation. It is usually accompanied by fused nasal passages above the eye rather than below it, and its called a proboscis. This is well known in fetal pathology and is called Cyclopia. As mentioned it is associated with failure of the division of the 2 hemispheres called Holprosencephaly.

Im not a pathologist but I have been performing autopsies for 3 years and I have seen one case.

I'm willing to accept that a cat - or any other animal - can be born with one eye (not that unheard of), I am not willing to accept that it was born without the very distinctive eye of a Felis catus domesticus. The absence of a vertically slit pupil screams poorly-done hoax to me.

[edit on 21/12/05 by Bripe Klmun]

For the critics, I have to wonder how many have ever seen newborn kittsns...

They are born with fur, short floppy ears, and are in a "fetal" position so that their head initially faces th same way as their stomach. They're also usually rather wet - And stay that way until themother cleans them. In the case of a still birth, the mother cat doesn't waste time, and leaves the thing laying there sopping wet. I've had a few in my time. They, like all baby mammals, ahve a larger, rounder head than adults, due to the fact their skulls aren't fully formed.

As for the eye, you have to remember that first of all, it's underdeveloped. Then you need to take into account that a cat's eyeballs are mostly white, just liek yours or mine - they just have very large irises that totally dominate the part of the eye outside the eye socket. What probably happened is that the kitten's eyelid opened early due to the sze of the eyeball forming behind it - You can see the folds of skin behind it. The eye itself is still a kitten's eye - Just big. The iris and thus, the "slit pupil" of a cat is still undeveloped.