WW III predictions by Stormberger and Government intervention.

Stormberger predicted the rise of Hitler amost exact - where he came from, time of rise, time of falling, what would happen, how it would happen.

Stormberer also predicted the beginnings of WW I the hows, where's and when's. Then described the bombings and destructions by weapons that had not yet been invernted.

After WWI and WW II he predicted WW III. This again is done in great detail as to the where's when's and how it will happen, and again with new bombs and weapons.

Some of the names that were brought up in a show were Sadam, Osama and a few others that could be the people that start the ball rolling on
WW III. The show was made before the 911 attacks. Another show was the Nazi Prophecies.

With big government the way it is and the different departments, do you think that it is possible that after careful study of the predictions of the past wars and how accurate that they were that the government went for a "change in history" by taking out Sadam with just an excuse of weapons of mass destruction. By getting him out of the picture before any thing happens they could change the course of pre determined history.





[edit on 19-10-2005 by cetrov]

I was thinking the same thing,...sorta.

I know that a lot of the Christians in America believe that the Third Great War will start somewhere in the Middle East.

And I thought, this could be one of the reasons why we took out Sadam before he could get Weapons of Mass Destruction.

I believe that this prophecy was the ause for the creation of the Jewish Nation in the middle east... to keep a check on the Region.
I also believe that this is why we must go to war with Iran to prevent them from ever becoming a powerful nation. We must keep the Midle East in check in order to prevent this prophecy from ever being fulfilled.

I just think its funny...that by trying to Prevent the war from happening ... we may have Started the Crusade Against Us!

Who is Stormberger?
Do you have any links with this info.
Thank you.

Google will bring up a bunch of sites with some of his writings.

Below is one of the web sites with some info.

Was Stormberger an 18th century prophet?

The timeliness of Stormberger’s prophecies show that Elohim had to give him these visions which furthered mankind’s understanding of the purpose of Elohim. If Stormberger’s prophecies could be taken as an isolated incident, they could be ignored as someone’s delusion or fantasy, but there were others that did not know each other that confirmed this prophecy.

Stormberger, a cowherder by profession, was born in the 18th century, in Rabenstein, Germany. He was noted for his visions and was feared and hated by the local people. He gave some uncanny prophecies about wars that would be fought in the 20th century, the depression, and inventions that would be created.

Now Stormberger’s prophecies were not general, but were very specific. For example, Stormberger gave the signs when WWI would take place. According to Arthur Prieditis book Fate of the Nations, he prophesied that: "When in the outskirts of the forest the iron road will be finished, and there the iron horse will be seen, a war will begin, to last twice two years ...(p. 372)."

Now World War I began August 1, 1914 when the iron road, the railroad, between Kalenneck and Deggendoef was finished. He also stated that the war would last 4 years--"twice two years." Arthur Prieditis’s book states: "It would be fought with iron fortresses that move without horses…(p. 372)." These were the tanks that were first used during WWI. The reader must keep in mind that these prophecies were given 200 years before they actually occurred.

He stated that right after WWI, there would come a time when money had no value. One would need a great deal of money to buy a loaf of bread. This did occur in Germany after WWI. The great American prophet Cayce also prophesied of this great depression.

Now if one thinks the prophecies of Stormberger were a fluke, then one should see his prophecy concerning WWII. He states in his prophecy that two or three decades after WWI, there would come another Great War, which would involve most of the nations of the world. Millions of men would die and many cities of the world would be destroyed. Now this Great War was WWII.

There were others in past centuries that also prophesied of WWII, such as Nostradamus and Pastor Bartholomaeus Holtzhauser (16th century), St. Oldie, Miracle Fatima, Seeress Regina, the German Cassandra to list a few from the book Fate of Nations.

OK ...

#1. If you want to be credible, Provide me with some links. I never heard of this guy.

#2. Prove to me that Stormberger made these predictions in 1700's and not in 1940's-present.

Wheretohide,

I agree that Cetrov should have provided some links to these websites.
I also feel very strongly that "YOU" should be able to do what I did (I never heard of himk before either) and google the name.
If you do you get all these websites:

www.google.com...

Cetrov, in the future it would be much better form to do something like-from this website I read that "blah,blah,blah".
Then given some of your thoughts and opinions.
Continue with sites and your thoughts till you have finished making your point.

Please understand I am not trying to be a jerk-it comes naturally-but what little you said really peaked my interest.
I am sure it peaked others interest too.

No offense taken -

1- the first post is my opinion
2- the second post is from another web site (stated in the post)
3- I recommended a google search - many many websites come up.

4-The Nazi party had a big book burning that toasted quite a few of his books.

Being the site that this is I figured more people would be into this stuff anyway and took for granted in thinking that most people would do a search of their own to find links-

And as to being credible - It is an opinion or thought on the governments possible involvment in trying to rewrite the future history based on predictions.

and Stormberger is documented -

I don't need to be credible - form your own opinion and do your own search.

I tend to find out my on information on what people tell me - I would hope others do the same thing -

Kirk

No, if you want to come it touting a specific prophet, come with some more information than this is what I heard, find out your own info. We are trying to deny ignorance here, not create it. You have no documentation.

If you have no supporting docs, this thread goes nowhere.

[edit on 20-10-2005 by Mainer]

Hmmm.. i checked this in google, and there heaps of links, however it seems most sites repeat exactly the same things, cut and pasted like in the article above.


All in all a great post about someone I never knew existed...

www.crawford2000.co.uk...
WW3 "And after the second great struggle between the nations will come a third universal conflagration, which will determine everything. There will be entirely new weapons. In one day more men will die than in all previous wars combined. Battles will be fought with artificial weapons. Gigantic catastrophes will occur. With open eyes will the nations of the Earth enter into these catastrophes. They shall not be aware of what is happening, and those who will know and tell, will be silenced.

Everything will become different than before, and in many places the Earth will be a great cemetery. The third great war will be the end of many nations."

On the same theme....

www.greatdreams.com...

Maria Laach, German religious woman, who did several prophecies in the 16th century:

"The 20th century will bring death and destruction, apostasy of the Church, discord in the families, cities and governments; it will be the century of three great wars with intervals of some decades. They will turn more devastating and bloody and they will leave in ruins not only Germany, but all the countries of the Est and West. (...)

After a great defeat of Germany, a great war will come. There won't be bread for the people and food for animals. Poisonous clouds, created by human hands, will lower and will exterminate everything. The human mind will be taken by madness."

9) At his time, Stormberger was well-known for his prophecies. Several Austrian specialists of prophecies from the area of Bavaria documented his prophecies, but the books containing his writings were condemned by the Nazists and were burned, because they foresaw Hitler's defeat, who was interested in prophecies. But fragments telling that he foresaw the invention of cars, trains and airplanes survived.

He said with precision the day that the First World War would begin, its duration, the weapons. He predicted the Great Depression in 1929, the Third Reich, the Second World War, the Swastika, the defeat and the division of Germany etc. He also said that there would be three world wars in the 20th century:

"Two or three decades after the first war it will come one a Second War still larger. Almost all the nations of the world will be involved. Millions of men will die, without being soldiers. The fire will fall from the sky and many great cities will be destroyed. And after the end of the Second Great War, a third universal conflagration will come, so that it will determine everything. There will be weapons totally new.

In one day, more men will die than in all the previous wars. The battles will be accomplished with artificial weapons (chemical bombs). Gigantic catastrophes will happen.

With the open eyes, the nations of the planet will go through these catastrophes. They won't know what is happening, and those that know and tell, will be silenced. Everything will be different from before, and in many places the Earth will be a great cemetery. The third war will be the end of many nations".

10) German Monk, Ludwig Heinrich, who lived in the 17th century:

"In the last years of the 20th century, one will see the disappearing of countless animal species, killed by man. But at the end, it will be the man that it will condemn the man to the death, because everything that grows on the earth will contain the essence of the death. The air will be the blow of the death, and as soon as the man breathe it, he will breathe the death ". (chemical weapons)

"As soon as the millennium touches its end, it will rain from the sky one pestilence never saw before on the earth. And this pestilence will remove all the force from the man; and the man won't be able more to fight, even against the worm that crawls on the earth". (chemical weapons)

11) It is believed that the following prophecy, found in Monastery of Sainte Claire, Perpignan, in France, is from the 14th century. It was attributed by some to Abbot Reymond. The text is divided in five parts, each part prophesying about a century of the last five of the millennium. Here is a text from the last part:

"For stranger than the last times may seem, the last century of the millennium will overcome all the others. It will be similar to one car that moves with difficulty, guided by unable and servants of Satan. In that period of terror, there will be great spiritual poverty. (...) Many kings will lose the throne and some kings will recover the throne. A war will begin. (first war). After, another war comes. (second war) and so another war. (third war) From the sky the hell will fall. In the anguish of a bad life, the man will finish poisoning everything. (chemical bombs) Poisoned clouds will cover the earth. Monstrous machines will dominate the skies. (planes with bombs) The fire will destroy many cities. The men will finish destroying each other ".


[edit on 20-10-2005 by Netchicken]

Originally posted by Netchicken
11) It is believed that the following prophecy, found in Monastery of Sainte Claire, Perpignan, in France, is from the 14th century...:

... It will be similar to one car that moves with difficulty, guided by unable and servants of Satan. ...

What kind of cars did they have in the 14th century?


[edit on 20-10-2005 by Mainer]

Probably cart,

makes me glad I don't live in Europe....

im coming suspicious because of the simple lack of information about this guy

multiple times i come across a link which is become errored or just doesnt mention him when it stated his name in the search. also i find nothing that discredits him.

im trying to find anything i can about him, ill be back...

he is considered credable enough to be on the History Channel ....

Here

Nazi Prophecies
Some say that the rise of Nazi Germany was foretold in prophecies that began in biblical times and continued for centuries until the emergence of Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich. These predictions paint a chilling portrait of an evil, sinister force that would terrorize the world. We expose the prophecies throughout history that foresaw the rise and fall of Hitler and the Third Reich. The program includes biblical prophecies in the Book of Ester and the Book of Daniel, the haunting predictions of the infamous Nostradamus, the remarkably accurate prophecies of Matthias Stormberger and Henrich Heine, the disturbing and exact predictions of Eric Jan Hanussen--Hitler's personal clairvoyant--and more...much more. Plus, we delve into the roots of Nazism: into Germanic and Aryan legends, the occult, mysticism, astrology, and more to uncover prophecies that foretold the emergence of one of the most horrifying tyrants in history: Adolf Hitler

does anyone find it incredibly strange the lack of info on this guy?

so many prophets get things right and they are hyped like no other, this guy gets it right and the only reference made to him is once in a hisory channel documetary about nazis and a book called "The Fate Of the Nations" by Arthur P.

does anyone find it incredibly strange the lack of info on this guy?

Absolutely. I've been checking around for a while now, with Google of course, but also with Dogpile and Altavista, and not much. Many of the sites that come up are German sites, such as this one:

www.sabon.org...

It has what appears to be a pretty decent section on Matthias Stormberger, but it's in German and the Google translator isn't doing a good job, but it appears that this page lists some of this guy's prophecies.

Very interesting. Will need to continue searching...

One of the TV shows called Ancient Prophecies mentions Stormberger. Im thinking its Ancient Prophecies one, but I don't remember because I sold my VHS collection .... Most of the references of Stormberger on the WWWeb mentions the same information as Ancient Prophecies TV show.

[edit on 27-10-2005 by XPhiles]

I'll try to translate that one, but my english isn't perfect.

O, ihr lieben Leut, es wird eine Zeit kommen, das werden die Leut alleweil gscheiter und närrischer werden. Wenn ihr wüßtet, was euch, euren Kindern und Kindskindern bevorsteht, ihr würdet in Schrecken vergehen. Das ist die erste Zeit. Wenn sich die Bauern wie die Städtischen kleiden, und wenn sie mit gewichsten Stiefeln in der Miststatt stehen. Wenn man die Weiberleut wie die Geißen spürt. Wenn es nur noch rote Hausdächer gibt. Wenn auf den Straßen die weißen Gäns daherkommen. Wenn die roten Hüt aufkommen, das ist dann die erste Zeit. Eiserne Straßen werden in den Wald gebaut, und grad an Klautzenbach vorbei wird der eiserne Hund bellen. Wagen werden gemacht, die ohne Roß und ohne Deichsel fahren. Und der Übermut wird keine Grenzen mehr haben.

Oh, dear people, a time will come where the people will become clever and foolish. If you would know what lies before you, your kids and your grandchildren, you would perish in fright. This is the first time (More like the first period). When the countrymen dress like the suburban, and stay on the dunghill with waxed boots. When you percieve the womenfolk like the goats (??). When the red hats will appear, this will be the first time. When the white geese will come down the streets. Iron streets will be built through the forest, and the iron dog will bark alongside the "Klautzenbach". Waggons will be made, that drive without horse and without towing bar. And the mischief will have no limits.

An die Schwarzach wird eine eiserne Straß gebaut, die wird nicht mehr fertig. In Zwiesel wird ein großes Schulhaus gebaut wie ein Palast für die Soldaten. In Zwiesel wird alles voll Häuser, und einmal werden die Brennesseln aus den Fenstern wachsen. Wenn die Rabenköpf aufkommen und dann schön stad wieder abkommen, beginnen diese anderen Zeiten. Wenn das Korn reif ist, wird ein großer Krieg kommen. Die Leute werden aber alleweil mehr statt weniger. Das Geld wird keinen Wert mehr haben. Um 200 Gulden kann man keinen Laib Brot kriegen. Es wird aber keine Hungersnot sein. Das Geld wird zu Eisen. Um ein Goldstück kann man einen Bauernhof kaufen. Von den Leuten wird eins das andere nimmer mögen. Den Herrgott werden sie von der Wand reißen und im Kasten einsperren. Jeder wird einen anderen Kopf haben.

At the "Schwarzach", an iron street will be built, that will never be finished. A big school building will be built, like a palace, for the soldiers. In "Zwiesel", it will be full of houses, and one time, nettle will grow out of the windows. When the raven-heads (Rabenköpf) will come, the city will abandon, and another time will come. When the grain is ripe, a big war will come. People will be invariably less. Money will be worth nothing. You won't get a loaf of bread for 200 "Gulden". But there will be no famine. Money transforms to iron. For one coin, you can buy a farm. People won't like eachother. They will rip the lord from their walls and imprison him in the locker. Everyone will have another head.

Die Leut werden in der Luft fliegen wie die Vögel. Ein großer weißer Vogel wird in den Wald kommen. Der Wald wird so licht werden wie des Bettelmannes Rock. Auf jedem Stock wird ein Jäger sitzen. Und vom Hühnerkobel bis zum Rachel wird man durch keinen Wald mehr gehen brauchen. Das Holz wird so teuer wie das Brot, aber es langt. Die Kleinen werden groß und die Großen klein. Dann wird es sich erweisen, daß der Bettelmann auf dem Roß nicht zu derreiten ist. Der Glauben wird so klein werden, daß man ihn unter einen Hut hinein bringt. Der Glaube wird so klein werden, daß man ihn mit dem Geißelschnalzen vertreiben kann. Sieben geistliche Herren werden in Zwiesel eine Messe lesen, und bloß sieben Leut werden's anhören. Die hohen Herren machen Steuern aus, die keiner mehr zahlen wird. Viele neue Gesetze werden gemacht, aber nimmer ausgeführt.

People will fly in the air like birds. A big white bird will come into the forest. The forest will be as sheer as the beggars clothes. On every stick, a huntsman will sit. And you won't have to walk through a forest from "Hühnerkobel" to "Rachel" (Because there won't be any trees left). Wood will become as expensive as bread, but it will have enough. The small ones will be big, and the big ones will be small. It will be proved, that the beggar on the horse can't be overthrown. The faith of the people will be so small, that you can drive it away by the sound of the whip. Seven clerics will hold a mass in "Zweisel", and only seven people will attend. The upper class will resolve taxes, that no one will be able to settle. A lot of new laws will be made, but will never be carried out.


This is only the first part, but it took me some time to figure out. I can do the other part, if it's useful to anyone.

Source: www.sabon.org...

interesting
idk im just feeling like its unfortunate that his work got destroyed. i just have this feeling something about him isnt being told. never hearing of him, so little info on him. yet he and his predictions were documented. so strange.

Keep Going! Very Interesting!!!

Also, the words that you don't know... is there any way to find out?

I want to use his words to create a visual picture in my mind so I can use his work to unlock any mysteries that may ocur during these events.

I am suprised that I have never heard of his work before. There may be some mystery to that??? Maybe his work was suppressed.

Any ideas on how we can find out?