Excellent find and OMG!

This should be a Top Story methinks.

Fantastic find, but I am worried about one major thing...

What if BushCo have done a Hoover? Anyone remember when he "made" the F.B.I. and put himself in charge of it for life?

Think of that for a moment...Bush...in power of a "Spy Agency" or any of his partners for life, no matter who gets in power they will have an agency nobody can spy on or keep check of to plant evidence and cause as many problems as they so desire.

Welcome to the "Democratic Police State".

Nice find!
And just to think, people have been saying that the Patriot Act version 2 was nothing to worry about. They may of had it right, this move far exceeds what the Patriot Act 2

Hot news in Europe and the UK - but ignored by ATS?!

Well, not by me! I think this'll make a GREAT topic for a podcast - and, and ... it's coming to me...

I agree! Excellent find! :up
Yes, this information is disturbing, but doesn't surprise me in the least.:

Did you know the German translation of "NCS" is "SSS"?

Why so much security, I wonder? When money starts going to centralized budgets, it's not just a bureaucratic powerplay - it's a big policy move. The kind that's designed to survive a change in government.

Ever hear about the Commie witch hunts? Very much like the Salem witch hunts. Except this time it will be easier. All the troublemakers will be quarantined in detainment camps...

Originally posted by soficrow
Did you know the German translation of "NCS" is "SSS"?

Where on earth do you get SSS from?

National Clandistine Service translates to Nationaler Heimlicher Service aka NHS.

Originally posted by thematrix

Originally posted by soficrow
Did you know the German translation of "NCS" is "SSS"?

Where on earth do you get SSS from?

National Clandistine Service translates to Nationaler Heimlicher Service aka NHS.

SSSo. You zpeke German, Jah. Unt haff you any udder affiliationsss zat you vould lik to disssclosss to ATSSS?




It vass a yoke.

All joking asside ...

Can anybody figure out that maze of agencies with respect to powers, functions and budgetary expenditures? Is the confusion intentional? Too much stovepiping so that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing?

It seems that new agencies are being created all over the place with little details given. Why the need for a new super secret agency with a director who's identity remains secret.

Any guesses from the politicos out there? I'm guessing it's one of the PNAC gang.

The police state is closer than you think...
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I was born an American and lived in America my whole life and I have never seen or even heard about anybody being taken away by any so called secret police or intelligence agency. I am close to people in several Intel agencies and they do not do that sort of thing to innocent people. Quit being so paranoid. Unless you are terrorists or planning an attack don't worry about it.

This isn't going to be used against terrorists IMO.

With the Bush administration being investigated on all sides, arrest warrants issued and pending indictments for outting a CIA agent, you have to wonder about the need to create a bureau reporting directly to Goss.

How far do you think the powers that be are willing to go to hold onto power? Think about it. Ever watch a spy movie about a black-op or mobster movies? How does a mobster keep his power?

This is basically a black-op run from the Whitehouse. The guys got together and decided they need a new secret "agency" (i.e. a team of people) headed by a nameless person, the perfect "plausible deniability". If it get's out of control, blame it on a patsy.

If I was a prosecutor in the US I'd be worried right now.
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Originally posted by Gools

Can anybody figure out that maze of agencies with respect to powers, functions and budgetary expenditures?

"The director of the new agency, whose identity will remain secret and is simply known as "Jose", will report directly to the head of the CIA, Porter Goss."

.....Jose and Porter have the power, run the show, call the shots, and write the checks. Obviously.

Is the confusion intentional?

yes.

Too much stovepiping so that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing?

Except Jose and Porter.

Why the need for a new super secret agency with a director who's identity remains secret.

Ambience.

The police state is closer than you think...

yes.

If I was a citizen of the U.S. I would have been worried years ago, however, the allusionary tactics of the U.S. have worked perfectly on a mass scale.

Godwins law is foolish; and only fools dictate thier counter arguments with such fallacious propositions that volley common sense and aprioism which illustrates that dictatorships are sprung up through a predictable pattern which is being seen in the United States of America as we speak. Truely, the only perceptive argument for such measure taken upon by this administration would be to parry advancments made by terrorist cells, but as we speak, it's becoming blatantly apparent that these ghosts seem to be non-existent and contrived under spurious accords.

Jose, do tell me, how accountable are you to legality? It seems as if you will not be held accountable to any crimes due to your viel of secrecy.

Luxifero

Originally posted by Luxifero

Jose, do tell me, how accountable are you to legality? It seems as if you will not be held accountable to any crimes due to your viel of secrecy.

Bingo. It's Gonzales.



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Perphaps.

Luxifero

welcome back to the reality of almost complete Orweillian 1984 (1948) on Earth.

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