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Footage shows US troops burning Taliban corpses in Afghanistan

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posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 01:37 PM
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The Australian TV show Dateline has just aired a episode on the war in Afghanistan. Footage included in that episode showed US forces burning the bodies of Taliban members and then taunting other members of the Taliban.



UPI

KANDAHAR, Afghanistan, Oct. 19 (UPI) -- An Australian television station has shown U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan burning bodies of dead Taliban -- an act of desecration in the Islamic tradition.

The SBS network's Dateline show reported Wednesday that the troops then broadcast taunts about the desecration into a nearby village believed to shelter Taliban sympathizers.

Cremation is an act offensive to Muslims and a possible breach of the Geneva Conventions governing the treatment of enemy remains in wartime.

The U.S. military told the program that they burned the bodies for hygiene reasons, an explanation that its reporters doubted.


I don't have the video of this yet but here's a bit from the show's transcript:



SBS.com.au

At the top of the hills above the village the soldiers have taken the tactics of psychological warfare to a grotesque and disturbing extreme. US soldiers have set fire to the bodies of the two Taliban killed the night before. The burning of the corpses and the fact that they've been laid out facing Mecca is a deliberate desecration of Muslim beliefs.

SOLDIER: Wow, look at the blood coming out of the mouth on that one, #ing straight death metal.

PsyOps specialist Sergeant Jim Baker then broadcast an inflammatory message over the loudspeakers in order to taunt and bait the enemy.

SGT JIM BAKER Attention, Taliban, you are all cowardly dogs. You allowed your fighters to be laid down facing west and burned. You are too scared to come down and retrieve their bodies. This just proves you are the lady boys we always believed you to be.

--snip--

The soldiers say they're burning the bodies for hygiene purposes but out here, far away from the village, this appears to make no sense.
These soldiers have clearly been trained to denigrate and enrage Muslims. Such blatant disrespect for the corpses of their enemy is a breach of the Geneva Convention. It also heightens the perception of local people that the Americans are just as barbarous as the Taliban say they are.


I wonder if stories like this will cause a reaction in Afghanistan that is similar to the reaction the Iraqis had towards the Abu Ghraib photos.

This can't be good for relations with the Afghans.

[edit on 19-10-2005 by AceOfBase]



NR

posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 02:15 PM
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i will post later on of U.S hate crimes on Iraqis but good thread keep it up.


[edit on 19-10-2005 by NR]



posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 02:35 PM
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I would like to see the video and the "soldiers" while they are talking. Don't want to get that dubbing in there.

BUT I highly doubt that regular US troops would do such a thing. When we swear in we are sworn to uphold the Geneva convention. Also do not forget that CIA Operatives are in there, they are the ones that would most likely do such a nasty thing.

Plus if there is an inkling of truth to this then the American media would be all over this just like they were the Abu Ghraib case.



posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 02:48 PM
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Were any Afghans present? ONLY American soldiers are there? Are the bodies simply being disposed of for health reasons?


I need to see such a thing, nut just hear about it. And even then video is only part of the story...

[edit on 19-10-2005 by skippytjc]



posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 02:57 PM
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God forbid something tarnish the American name....



posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 03:07 PM
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That’s just it. With people like some of you guys that spend hours and hours each day looking for stuff to tarnish the USA’s GREAT name it needs defending. The USA isn’t perfect, but it’s only responsible for about one hundredth the crap you guys try to stick to it…Maybe if some of the home nations of you haters actually did anything at all you guys would have people spending hours a day looking to tarnish you too…Out of site, out of mind.

The USA: the greatest place on the planet. It’s the world’s largest immigration destination for a reason. Period.



posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 03:10 PM
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That is an ongoing occurance with each 'anything and everything' that happens in the world today, especially in Iraq and Afghanistan, Dulcimer.

Where you been? God forbid the day that it stops.









seekerof



posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 03:12 PM
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wat do u do with unclaim bodies? u burn them for to prevent disease. its like civil war back in the U.S. i wouldnt just leave them there. they aint good dog food.



posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by deltaboy
wat do u do with unclaim bodies?


Bury them in the sand?
How difficult would that be?



posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by AceOfBase

Originally posted by deltaboy
wat do u do with unclaim bodies?


Bury them in the sand?
How difficult would that be?


got shovels with ya? or u dink yer delicate hands can handle all the digging and still have the time to chase after the Taliban? dont know if dead bodies in the mountains help there with no sand.



posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by skippytjc
Maybe if some of the home nations of you haters actually did anything at all you guys would have people spending hours a day looking to tarnish you too…


Did you forget that there are Canadian troops in Afghanistan?



posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by deltaboy
got shovels with ya? or u dink yer delicate hands can handle all the digging and still have the time to chase after the Taliban? dont know if dead bodies in the mountains help there with no sand.


If they're prepared to create corpses they should be prepared to dispose of them. I can't see how burning them out in the open is the best choice or the most efficient choice.



posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 03:35 PM
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I think the American families would want the bodies of theirloved ones returned. Shouldnt we afford the same respect and common dencency to the Taliban.

I'm not saying this story is true. Evidence please.



posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by whaaa
I think the American families would want the bodies of theirloved ones returned. Shouldnt we afford the same respect and common dencency to the Taliban.

I'm not saying this story is true. Evidence please.


So how do you think the US troops should go about tracking down the family members of the Taliban? Did you really think that statement through?



posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by BlackBeard

Originally posted by whaaa
I think the American families would want the bodies of theirloved ones returned. Shouldnt we afford the same respect and common dencency to the Taliban.

I'm not saying this story is true. Evidence please.


So how do you think the US troops should go about tracking down the family members of the Taliban? Did you really think that statement through?



Yes I did think it through. I would go to any length to retreive the bodies of my son or daughter. Maybe the Afganis' feel the same way.

[edit on 19-10-2005 by whaaa]



posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 03:51 PM
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Kinda hard to send a body back to a family that you have no clue where they came from in the first place and I highly doubt that the majority of the Taliban even have ID's on them.

Gotta remember that the Taliban are/were not an organized army. That right there makes it much more difficult.



posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 04:05 PM
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Burning corpses are an efficient method of disposal. It's been done for millenia and I'm sure, if it came to pass that we personally were faced with such a collection of dead, the notion would be forefront in our minds as well. It is, after all, warfare, no matter how you tag it and niceties such as conforming to the burial practices of the enemy would naturally be of little consequence. I doubt the Taliban would be more generous with the bodies of American and Canadian soldiers which they have slain.

That said, it is the additional information of loudspeakers taunting Afghani watchers which I don't like. Why bother, when the greasy flames are crackling and black smoke is rising in the Afghan skies? How does it benefit the war effort when such acts can only enrage those people who, up until then, would have stayed out of the fight?

The Russians, while they were knee deep in the Afghan quagmire, did little to cement good relationships with the people there and look where it got them.

Hearts and minds...



posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by masqua
That said, it is the additional information of loudspeakers taunting Afghani watchers which I don't like. Why bother, when the greasy flames are crackling and black smoke is rising in the Afghan skies? How does it benefit the war effort when such acts can only enrage those people who, up until then, would have stayed out of the fight?


Again, I would like to see video of this.

Chances are if the Afghanistan People want the Taliban out of their country then they would not care about the burning of the bodies or the taunting of them. But once again I do not see any normal US Units doing this out of pleasure. IF it truly did happen then I would have to go with Covert Ops CIA or maybe even some Delta Force members which would be quite disheartening.



posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 05:54 PM
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This hasn't made it to the US media yet but it's all over the Australian sites.



theage.com.au

SBS has broadcast footage of what it says is United States soldiers burning two dead Taliban fighters as they faced Mecca and using the charred and smoking corpses in a propaganda campaign in southern Afghanistan.

The Dateline report, broadcast on Wednesday night, said US soldiers burnt the bodies for hygiene reasons but then a US psychological operations unit broadcast a propaganda message on loudspeakers to Taliban fighters, taunting them to retrieve their dead and fight.

In Washington, the US Defence Department has expressed concern over the report and promised it will be "aggressively investigated."

"These are very serious allegations and, if true, very troublesome," Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman told Reuters.



posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 06:36 PM
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I hope this isn’t another Quran down the toilet all over again. BTW, just in case it’s true, can some show me the article in the Geneva Conventions where it states you can’t burn dead enemy bodies?



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