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World War II Veterans Clash In Ukraine

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posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 04:28 PM
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Veterans of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army and veterans of the Soviet Red Army clashed today in Kiev, Ukraine. They were holding competing rallies and the Red Army veterans accused the Ukrainian Insurgent Army veterans of treachery and Nazi collaboration.




RADIO FREE EUROPE- RADIO LIBERTY: World War II Veterans Clash In Kyiv

15 October 2005



Tempers flared and minor clashes broke out in the Ukrainian capital Kyiv today as World War II veterans and their supporters held competing rallies.

Veterans of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, who say they fought both Nazi forces and Soviet soldiers in a bid to create an independent Ukraine, rallied to demand recognition and benefits.

They clashed with veterans of the Soviet Red Army, who accused them of treachery and Nazi collaboration.

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Still going strong. These guys must be really old by now and they are still fit to fight. Way to go


Btw, they say that no major injuries or arrests were reported...


Country profile: Ukraine (BBC)


[edit on 2006/4/23 by Hellmutt]




posted on Oct, 16 2005 @ 11:41 PM
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Here is Guardians coverage of the story. It´s a long article.


Guardian: Red Army Veterans Clash With Partisans

Thousands of aging Red Army veterans and their supporters clashed Saturday in downtown Kiev with partisans who fought the Soviets and Nazis during World War II and now want pensions and official recognition as veterans.

"I hate these partisans, they spilled our blood,'' said World War II veteran Oleksandr Shchutskiy, whose green jacket shone with medals.

Thousands of Red Army veterans and their supporters - waving red flags and chanting ``Get out!'' and ``Shame!'' - marched in counter protest, blocking the advance of the partisans' supporters, as Soviet war songs played over loudspeakers. Some Red Army supporters grabbed at the flags of the nationalists and set them on fire.

Riot police separated the groups on the capital's main artery, Kreshchatyk, pulling away participants. There did not appear to be any major injuries or arrests made. No one answered the phone at Kiev police headquarters.

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Other Sources:
Boston.com: Red Army veterans clash with partisans

Canoe -- CNews: Ukrainian nationalists clash with Soviet army vets

The Herald: Red Army veterans clash with partisans

Canada.com: Ukrainian nationalists clash with Soviet army veterans in Kyiv



posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 09:33 AM
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Almost a year ago since it happened. Do you think they're going to fight again this year? I think the younger soldiers are spoiled and need to do more work.



posted on Oct, 13 2006 @ 04:48 PM
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All is set for a new fresh fight tomorrow. 4,000 police will be deployed in case it gets out of hand.


RIA Novosti: Ukrainian nationalists set to march in Kiev Saturday

13/ 10/ 2006



A number of Ukrainian nationalist parties and public organizations plan to hold a march on Saturday dedicated to the 64th anniversary of the Ukrainian Insurgents Army (UPA), an independent guerilla group formed in WWII that fought for national independence, the Kiev administration said Friday.

The march has met with strong opposition from the Eurasian Youth Movement, the People's Opposition Bloc led by Natalia Vitrenko, and the Communist Party of Ukraine, who pledge to ban the event.

The city administration said about 4,000 police will be on hand to ensure security during the march.

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posted on Oct, 14 2006 @ 09:59 PM
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It was a relatively peaceful march this year. 5,000 former partisans and civilians against 4,000 policemen. After fists, clubs and riot shields had been used for about 10 minutes, the police fired an unspecified gas into the crowd. It was quiet afterwards...


MosNews: Radical Communists Clash With Police in Ukraine Rallies

14.10.2006



Fists, clubs, and riot shields were used in the brawl. PSPU activists and police were roughly evenly matched in the 10-minute melee, until a paramilitary police unit fired an ’unspecified gas’ into the crowd, dispersing the combatants.

An estimated 5,000 former partisans, their supporters, and a small minority of partisan opponents had gathered in the centre of the Ukrainian capital Kiev by mid-morning. Police presence was heavy with more than 4,000 uniformed law enforcers on hand. The marchers were generally peaceful, although pro- and anti-partisan demonstrators repeatedly insulted each other verbally, across police cordons.

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