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NEWS: Neo-Nazi Demonstration Turns into Riot

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posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 02:32 PM
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Nygdan, there was a point when they reprosented less than 1% of the German population. In fact when they had so little support they could never get a seat.

They want the attention, they wish to show Jews, Blacks, Homosexuals, et al, as bad if they do they then stand more chance of getting support. Especailly with the slant they can publish on the War on Terror and the like.




posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 02:35 PM
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The protestors proved they were no better than the neo-Nazis themselves when they exhibited such violence.



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 02:36 PM
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The fire they set is supposedly a neighborhood tavern, looting was alcohol?
Reminds me of Atlanta in the 1960's...aghhhhhhhhhh



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 02:37 PM
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I'm watching it on local news right now! Hilarious!!!!!!!!! hahahaha!!!!! So glad I don't have work today. Buildings burning, cars overturned, funny!

No Nazis marching today, but what were they marching against? Black Violence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow! Hahahahaha, this is just so funny!



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by SourGrapes
They just set fire to someone's home. This is totally out of control.


it is a Tavern with a residence above the tavern.

Drive down 6th street you will see we have many of the same right here in our area.


Just make sure your doors are locked and your hubby is with you



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by Full Metal
I'm watching it on local news right now! Hilarious!!!!!!!!! hahahaha!!!!! So glad I don't have work today. Buildings burning, cars overturned, funny!

No Nazis marching today, but what were they marching against? Black Violence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow! Hahahahaha, this is just so funny!


How will the farrakhan march go? Not like this, i bet.
Handled with kid gloves, it is a hoot if it was not so ignorant!!



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by Full Metal
No Nazis marching today, but what were they marching against? Black Violence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow! Hahahahaha, this is just so funny!


Yeah, they helped the neo-Nazis prove their point.
Pretty stupid move to respond in this way to such a protest.



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 02:50 PM
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Helped them prove waht point? That blacks should be slaves? That nonwhites are subhuman? That this is what we should do with jews?


Having a violent reaction against nazis is good. People haven't forgotten what they want, and when the nazis step up, they'll get smashed in the face, again, and again, and again.



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 02:53 PM
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i thought i saw a couple white people out there as well (at the gas station getting broken into) but its prolly just my eyes tricking me.

anyway i dont blame any of em. you can only stand by so long and watch as fellow members of your race get beaten by cops (such as robert davis for instance), katrina problems, and cops protecting racists as they protest why you shouldnt be allowed here, and you should only be seen as guests before you just snap.



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 02:55 PM
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Nygdan;

Do you happen to live in a segregated gated community?



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 02:58 PM
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This is where it all started:

www.kansaspress.ku.edu...




In the Chicago suburb of Skokie, one out of every six Jewish citizens in the late 1970s was a survivor--or was directly related to a survivor--of the Holocaust. These victims of terror had resettled in America expecting to lead peaceful lives free from persecution. But their safe haven was shattered when a neo-Nazi group announced its intention to parade there in 1977. Philippa Strum's dramatic retelling of the events in Skokie (and in the courts) shows why the case ignited such enormous controversy and challenged our understanding of and commitment to First Amendment values.


The debate was clear-cut: American Nazis claimed the right of free speech while their Jewish "targets" claimed the right to live without intimidation. The town, arguing that the march would assault the sensibilities of its citizens and spark violence, managed to win a court injunction against the marchers. In response, the American Civil Liberties Union took the case and successfully defended the Nazis' right to free speech.

Skokie had all the elements of a difficult case: a clash of absolutes, prior restraint of speech, and heated public sentiment. In recreating it, Strum presents a detailed account and analysis of the legal proceedings as well as finely delineated portraits of the protagonists: Frank Collin, National Socialist Party of America leader and the son of a Jewish Holocaust survivor; Skokie community leader Sol Goldstein, a Holocaust survivor who planned a counterdemonstration against the Nazis; Skokie mayor Albert Smith, who wanted only to protect his townspeople; and ACLU attorney David Goldberger, caught in the ironic position of being a Jew defending the rights of Nazis against fellow Jews. While the ACLU did win the case, it was a costly victory--30,000 of its members left the organization. And in the end, ironically, the Nazis never did march in Skokie.



www.answers.com...

en.wikipedia.org...


[edit on 2005/10/15 by GradyPhilpott]



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
Helped them prove waht point? That blacks should be slaves? That nonwhites are subhuman? That this is what we should do with jews?


They were protesting against crime from black gangs and black violence targeting whites.

This is how they responded to the protest:



edition.cnn.com...

Most of the violence happened when residents, who had pelted the Nazi marchers with bottles and rocks, took their anger out on police, said chief news photographer for CNN affiliate WTVG Brian Jagodzinski.

Video around 2:25 p.m. showed crowds using bats to bring down a wooden fence, as looters broke into a small grocery store.

Around 3 p.m., crowds of young men pelted the outside of a two-story residence with rocks, smashed out the windows with wooden crates, ran inside and threw out the furniture and lamps from the upper level windows to the sidewalk below.


"The crowd was very...extremely agitated at the police... for doing this [making arrests in] the community when they should be doing this to the Nazis," Jagodzinski said.

Jagodzinski said his news van and a police car had windows smashed and doors bent back.


Why loot, vandalize, commit arson and attack the police and the media in a protest against neo-nazis?

[edit on 15-10-2005 by AceOfBase]



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 03:00 PM
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Having a violent reaction against Nazi's is good? It's good to have a violent reaction to non-violent demonstrators marching against gang violence, because it is believed they have the potential to be violent themselves. I guess this isn't America and we are free only to express our beliefs if they are approved. Sure, racist idiots are just that. But it seems black racism against whites is acceptable these days. And why is everything a reason to loot and destroy the property of those not even involved? I guess they're just trying to survive.


This is exactly what the neos wanted, to show that blacks act like animals, and very sadly, they are doing just that.



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by AceOfBase
Why attack the police and the media in a protest against neo-nazis?


This is a very good question that goes to the heart of racial tension in America and why, I believe, there will never be a peaceful resolution.



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 03:03 PM
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Yes, Nygdan, again and again and again as their membership grows larger and larger.

The idea of attacking a group, which feeds off it is one that'll result in more damage being done to the attackers. If they march, nobody gave a damn it would do so much more harm to their cause. If they wish to show "blacks" as "savages" they have done well with this because attacking people for protesting is just that...no matter what they stand for.



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 03:06 PM
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The protesters did not attack the Nazis, but the police and then began to loot and destroy public and private property. There is a huge disconnect here that some seem unable to acknowledge.



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 03:07 PM
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no they are right to do so...if a bunch of black people decided to do a march for gettin rid of white people, and see them as nothing but guest to the country, then yea ima say go get em and get violent. but they havent, why because they arent tryin to have us all genocided and booted out of the country. untill sumone starts protesting that u shouldnt have the same rights because of your skin color maybe you wont fully understand.

racism is a view of hate. it effects other people. you can have whatever views you want as long as A. it doesnt effect other people who may be mentally or physically hurt by it or B. your willing to have your ass kicked or killed over it. if you dont comply with a or b then most likely choice b is going to happen anyway, so do us a favor and keep personal opinions like who should be allowed to live, to yourself



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by grimreaper797
no they are right to do so...if a bunch of black people decided to do a march for gettin rid of white people, and see them as nothing but guest to the country, then yea ima say go get em and get violent.


Would you say go get the police too?
Would you tell them to go loot and set fire to buildings and attack the news vans who are just there reporting this?



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by 27jd
Having a violent reaction against Nazi's is good? It's good to have a violent reaction to non-violent demonstrators marching against gang violence, because it is believed they have the potential to be violent themselves. I guess this isn't America and we are free only to express our beliefs if they are approved. Sure, racist idiots are just that. But it seems black racism against whites is acceptable these days. And why is everything a reason to loot and destroy the property of those not even involved? I guess they're just trying to survive.


This is exactly what the neos wanted, to show that blacks act like animals, and very sadly, they are doing just that.


Good post..I have been on the receiving end of black racism, as I was married to a drug cop who was in charge of the 'drug task force.'
He did not WARN me of the threats the dopers had made against the officer's families. he did not wish to worry me?????
I was going to work, as then I worked nights, and I was out on my big front porch, and a white pickup truck stopped at my mailbox and fired shots at me, I was the intended victim.
This caused the whole department to respond including the Chief who is black.He asked me if I could shoot and I said yes, he said "keep a weapon with you and whomever you have to eliminate, I will totally back you."
At teh time of MLK fineral, I had my own business, and was called by unknown perps and told if I did not close my business on fineral day, it would be burned down
YES,I love all the white racism!!!! I have NEVER hurt nor threatened anyone of ANY color on purpose..



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott

Originally posted by AceOfBase
Why attack the police and the media in a protest against neo-nazis?


This is a very good question that goes to the heart of racial tension in America and why, I believe, there will never be a peaceful resolution.


I am going to speak only on this specific incident.

here's what I have gathered from the various sources I've read.

protestors and nazis had a minor standoff. someone from the protestors side threw a bottle or a rock or both. police, protecting the nazis, cancelled the march and tossed tear gas to disperse the crowd (necessary? don't know). arrests were made (rock and bottle throwers).

the black protestors then got violent with the cops for arresting them in their own town when they felt that the nazis should not have even been there.

not agreeing with the reasoning. just pointing out the frustration that the protestors must have felt.

however, that doesn't explain burning down your own neighborhood and stealing from members of your own community.

that is something that happens in these situations that never makes sense to me. I'd be able to grasp the concept a bit more if they moved to an all white, segregated, community that perhaps is the home to the nazis. but burning down your own town makes no sense.

I keep getting the image of that one dude in New Orleans with a floating bucket of heinekens and one jammed in his back pocket (you know, when you're in a flood, one beer stands clear)




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