True enough, I am not saying that all police prescribe 100% to what I am saying, but most of the ones I know do. In a way it’s really not that
strange, if there is a fight at work between someone you know and some strange person wandering through, whose story are you more prone to believe,
whether true or not. I suppose they are people too; however considering the authority they are given, they should be less apt to come down on folks as
hard as they do, when those folks obviously present no danger to them. Also something needs to be done about the refusal to obey what they consider a
lawful verbal command, or at the very least to put extremely hard laws on what those commands are and when they may be issued. There are laws like
this that govern the Miranda laws, why not these also?
If this in not the case, why do we hear stories, even from the police themselves that if you wrong a cop you better not sneeze while being arrested?
Kids getting shot with tasor guns in school for acting up? Why was this guy hurt like he was? He put out a cigarette and his hand dropped below his
waist. If you saw “Meet the Falkers”, the state trooper in that movie is not to far from the truth in this instance, which is part of what makes
the joke viable. " You are failing to comply with a lawful verbal command!"
The “he was possibly going for a weapon” thing has been used to death and it is used too often as an excuse for abusing those taken into custody.
99% of the time the dead guy never had a viable weapon on him to begin with.
At present saying anything from “Oh, your hurting me”, to “I wish to speak to my attorney”, to, “I want a supervisor present”, is
considered to be resisting arrest, and failing to follow a lawful verbal command. Your only right is to ask for an attorney, and that is only AFTER
you are at the jail, seen the video of your Miranda rights, and been booked…
A process I know from having known the officers I have as friends, and hearing their stories and jokes.
Originally posted by LazarusTheLong
lets try to stay specific to this incident... since this one involved several situations not normally included. (hurricane, massive death toll,
severe overwork, personal tragedy...ect)
Were the federal officers involved in this incident, the FBI agent, and the Customs agent, under similar stress, that is not to mention that I believe
that one of the posts stated that at least one of the officers was not a New Orleans officer to begin with?
[edit on 10/17/2005 by defcon5]